and that's the story of john zeigler, a documentary film make, had an opportunity to interview jerrydusky several times. in police orison, over the tele and recorded a lot what have he had to say, as well. and then he decided to give nbc's "today" show the exclusive opportunity to listen to some of the comments that were made by a man who here to forehad been a hero, but after jerry is an's trial has become quite a villain. a child rapist. 45 counts and going. so here is jerry sandusky as he talks about that infamous locker room shower incident that was witnessed by mike mcqueary. >> i don't understand how anyone would have walked in to that locker room from where he was and heard sounds associated with sex going on. you know like he said that could have been. i mean, there was -- that would have been the last thing i would have thought about. >> unconfident about to hear and watch even though it's apaudio recording. you'll remember jerry sandusky is serving a 30 year prison sentence for abusing ten boys. joe paterno was never charged with anything and died in fact before all of thes

. >> filmmaker john zeigler is trying to prove that head coach joe paterno had no part in the scandal and should not have been forced out of the school in disgrace. >>> still ahead at 5:00, cleared of murder but may not be off the hook. why a new case could be in the future for amanda knox. >>> pushing it too far too fast. what you need to know about hidden dangers of starting a new workout routine. >> will it be a home run for wine lovers? changes coming to at&t park that should have some fans smiling. >>> and good afternoon. i'm jeff ranieri. quite a bit cooler today. we're tracking showers on the radar. we'll let you know when our best chances of rainfall returning in that forecast will be this week coming up in just a few minutes. >>> california's roads are so full of potholes, this is costing drivers $14 billion a year to fix damage done to their cars. that works out to $586 per driver. the american society of civil engineers tells "the l.a. times" nearly 70% of california's roads are in poor or mediocre shape. washington and oregon numbers are almost as bad. about 65% of their r

>> his name is john zeigler and he's done this before, he's attached himself to high profile cases. he did it about four years ago with sarah palin and the steubenville, ohio rape case and he started to do this more than a year ago about joe paterno. what he did was he created a website a little more than a year ago and posts to it almost daily trying to exonerate joe paterno. his motive is very clear. that that is why he went in and did this jailhouse interview with jerry sandusky. now, what's interesting is that when joe paterno's family actually learned that he was going this route, that he was essentially teaming up with jerry sandusky to help exonerate their father, they distanced themselves greatly. they said we didn't want to have anything to do with this, we don't believe this is the right thing to do, this is a misguided effort. and i want to have you listen to what zeigler actually told the "today" show this morning when he learned that. >> i put a year of my life into this with no compensation, no thought of compensation. only wanted to do one thing, which was to find out

what they have done is they brought in a guy by the name of john zeigler a failed talk radio host. >> remember him. >> yeah. he has turned into a documentary film maker and he was a big-time sarah palin supporter and so he got an interview with jerry sandusky as part of a documentary deal called "the framing of joe paterno." "right. let's bring the statute back. >> all of the things you have all of the causes. >> i know. i know why they do it for ratings. for ratings. right? but there are some people who are so disgusting. and we are not talking about here allegedly. >> he is a convicted child rapist. >> right. >> he is serving time. the today's show didn't do the original reporting on this. they are just allowing this propagandist to come on. >> and use them. >> exactly disgusting. you know nbc, they have been losing now to good morning america. this is the kind of crap that they pull. on another front, back to the gun safety issue, very very interesting. we know that senator harry reid has put a bill now on the senate floor on gun safety sadly and unfortunately, that does not includ

. >> john zeigler conducted the documentary on joe paterno he's working on.ing. >> thank you matt. >> you wrote an open letter to the media yesterday, a preemptive strike against what you think will be a lot of criticism coming your way because of these interviews and what you've come, or the conclusions you've come to. why did you write that letter? >>le with, i know the media really well, matt. i've devoted most of my career to analyzing the media, and i personally believe the media in this particular case has an agenda they don't want to hear what the truth is. this has been a rush to judgment from the beginning and i know i'm going to get attacked from everybody. >> when you say this has been a rush to judgment from the very beginning after over a year of examining your case and your conversations with jerry sandusky in person and by phone do you believe he was wrongly convicted? >> well, jerry sandusky already had his day in court, but -- >> do you believe he was wrongly convicted? >> i've written extensively about this at our website. my focus is on joe