tu turning sexual impulses into tortured je ed gestures. some believe it's more likely to make you a pedophile? >> this is what i say to him, the jonstudy that looked at priests from 1950 to 2002 who had abused said that 4% of american roman catholic priests who abeused were pedophile. that means 96% of priests did not abuse. why did celibacy cause them to be pedophiles? why does not being married? 30% of sex abuse occurred in marria marriages. does being a boy scout leader cause sexual abuse? it's a nonsecwitter. >> i agree 100% with father beck that pedophiles have nothing to do with celibacy. celibacy is something that is part of a church norm. and there are many healthy celibate priests, but definitely there are some people, not just in the priesthood, in every aspect of society, in every culture and every profession that do perform these horrible acts with minors, or criminal acts. we have to separate the two. >> you thirk there's a value to celibacy. you just don't think it should be thrown out? >> exactly. and i do think that celibacy has a value. actually, in almost world religion, there are some people who are celibate, th