mr. boland. >> we fill a little different role. we don't have any infrastructure but we represent utilities that have 88 percent of the infrastructure that keep our populations running. we cover from the mexican border to oregon and what we facilitate through the organization is we are embedded with the state of california through the last 60 years. we are in the cali complex, we have an mou with the secretary of cali and can bring resources from other companies in the field across all the disciplines for mutual assistance. we can stage, deploy and sit on situational awareness providing the state the information they need to posture a response and at the same time we can then be putting together the teams that are going to have to come in and support pg&e or other utilities that are in the stricken zone. we'll be calling on organizations from san diego to redding, we'll be calling on organizations outside the state of california that we have mou's with out of nevada and other surrounding states so that in the event an incident of t

mr. boland. >> this is where we fit into that link. we represent the utilities that protect and build the resill yepbs into the infrastructure. we fill a gap in attitude which is the relationships, distant and local relationships, cross boundaries between the multi disciplines in the utilities. we are able to cross those lines in the counties and step up to state operations so everybody is operating in a common operating picture so everybody understands what's available not only in their jurisdiction, but what kind of resources we can bring to bear, short and long-term, how distant those are, what the qualifications are. we have master resource catalogs designed just like fire scope and cal fire in which we have built strike teams from our utilities, strike teams from water companies. they simply make a call and tell us we need 10, 12, 15, it's our obligation to put that together and get it to them. they are worried about the incident in their jurisdiction which they have to correct. it's our responsibility to reach bond those borders

mr. boland. >> we are very fortunate, we are fully embedded with the state operations center. should the state decide to close the operations center and relocate, we will follow very closely. we also have 10 virtual centers to operate out of to support the state operation and support the utility industries if in fact that's called upon. >> mr. brig. >> similar response to the pg&e in terms of back-up centers. the only thing i would add again is the human element. we make sure all the knowledge does not reside in one person. we have a lot of bridges in the area, not all our employees live in san francisco. so it may not be possible to get some of our senior managers here or key employees here quickly within a day, within two days, and it's a constant challenge to make sure we have documentation and broad training for whoever does arrive at the eoc, they are in charge until someone else gets there and that could be a long time. >> thank you. mr. angelus. >> for verizon wireless in northern california we have two separate offices, we have in walnut creek and also folsom near sacr