joining me is elise foley who has been covering the immigration bill."the war room." >> thank you. >> michael: i hate to say this, but what rush said might border on coherency. >> you know, there are a few things that they worry about. they worry about the bill's legalization and cause a third wave, as they say and make everything worse. then their other fear which i think is cynical and less than positive is that legalize a bunch of people, they'll all become democratic voters and it will hurt their party. that is arguable. people won't become citizens and voters for years and years and maybe they can make their case to them beforehand. but there is credibility worries about the bill and what it will do politically. >> michael: in 2007 conservatives were so quick to jump all over immigration reform. this time, however, it's a muscle grumbling so far. are the republicans paralyzed by the latino vote? >> i think so, i mean, i think what we saw in the last election was pretty convincing to a lot of people. you saw mitt romney get such a small percentage o