and gerry ford thought that he knew as a lifetime, and successful lifetime on capitol hill, thought that he knew exactly how to run the government, and the two of them could work in harness together. reagan spotted it very quickly, what gerald ford was really talking about was contradicting the democracy that had taken place in the republican party and instead shunting in this figure alongside who actually the party had deliberately not chosen. it's interesting. >> and one more here. then we'll wrap up. >> seth. >> fitzpatrick from vision journal. the overwhelming outpouring that took place at president reagan's funeral service here seemed to demonstrate that this is a man who connected with the american people in a very special way. whether people agree with him or disagree with him, they certainly thouof

do you think that cycles ever going to break i mean did this all start with gerry ford pardoning richard nixon now well you know it started because it is part we lift ourselves up as being something on some kind of high moral ground and we simply are not our government time and time again not just domestically i mean whether it's a u.n. day whether it's whether it's pinochet in chile whether it's brazil our country has always been there to engage in this type of thuggery and it's what we tell our children tom we tell our children that the way we act influences who we are and we've lost that identity and we have the media unwilling to talk about it we have we don't even teach this in school do you realize if you were to pick up a history book and you were to talk about what did america do to a year and a what what what did america do to the leadership in brazil when they murdered so many people when they imprisoned so many people what did we do to support these people we don't talk about that because we have this idolized idea that we're somehow different from those folks around the world

and then i talked to the three former presidents, gerry ford, jim carter and george bush, and i talked to daughters-in-dew, lady bird johnson, nancy reagan, and grandchildren, margaret truman and john eisenhower, both of whom, of course, are writers themselves, and they view their grandmothers very well. so they were wonderful help. then i talked to the other siblings. richard nixon's very much younger brother edward nixon, who most people don't even know he has a still that was still arrive. he was very helpful. teddy kennedy, eunice shriver. i talked to people who were part of the families, and they gave me insights and anecdotes that don't necessarily appear anywhere else. >> have you met any of the mothers? >> yes. i met and interviewed rose kennedy. mrs. carter, oh, yes, i interviewed lillian carter, she's memorable. and i was around a bit with virginia clinton kelley, but i didn't interview her, but i was very much around when she was there. so those i did really get to watch and talk to and got a feel of their personalities. >> how many of these 11 women have a book written abou

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