>> okay, mr. devil. one thing, mr. , how many you get the number -- >> sean: maybe the number he's calling is to trigger that bomb. >> very possible. >> sean: brooke? >> look, i think it's extremely important that people that don't know anything about this, such as myself, don't explain on what happened, because it gives an unfair advantage to the terrorist. we're a very confused society. even our president cannot define terrorism. he said that an act of terror is anytime a bomb is used. really? that's not the legal definition of terrorism. >> sean: no. it drives me nuts that officially the major hassan case is still workplace violence. that's a load of crap. that was terrorism, islamic terrorism. >> the biggest victims are the families. >> terrorism is right there in the word itself. it's hurting civilians and getting a big impact nationwide. we see a national terrorist situation here. what i'm hoping for, by the way, with all this media exposure, maybe these two guys are really the culprits. maybe they won't get away.

mr. assad in syria, things can intrude on what was supposed to be a placid, domestic agenda. >> megyn: this kim jong-un, it's like the devil you know. we had kim jong-il and as we say he would be bribed and contained. the son is like a fat prince running around and nobody had the nerve to discipline and never taught anything other than by a crazy man and now we don't know what we're dealing with. the wall street journal called him a man-child. and he's leading that nation. how is our president supposed to be -- look who he's dealing with. we've got the fat prince, we've got ahmadinejad in iran and now assad torturing his own people in syria. how is is a united states president supposed to sit down and make any progress in dealing with any of these guys? >> well, as you say, you just hope for containment, really, if you're the president of the united states when you're dealing with these people who range from cynical to insane, to whatever. and you can't really get much out of them unless they are susceptible to being bribed, unless you really want to go to war and the thought of fighting war, that involves north korea woul

>> as long as you have the devil, you can go as long as you want. asked mr. to krikorian, is there anything short of removal that you would not consider the amnesty? >> no. it means an illegal immigrant gets to stay. officer ofademic comparative immigration amnesty. but it is a legal term. how about you? isthing short of removal amnesty to you? >> i would argue declining to remove and on lawfully present alien is amnesty-;lus, because you're given the person what he is taken, namely presence in the united states, unlawfully, so you're not only declined to punish, but you allow him to have what he has taken bait you could define amnesty as not prosecuting, but this is more. this is allowing the person to keep what he has unlawfully taken. >> some have said the status quo represents defacto amnesty. would you agree with that? disagree this administration and others have deliberately chosen not to enforce the law, that is a kind of the fact of and the stick and yes, the only way to resolve it that we havebutiv i would argue more than just a defacto amnesty, whic