the meantime, instead of being ready to part with $25 billion today, that is a deal for dell that haseryone saying that this could be the start of something very big. front and center, here and now. at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the world keep promises. neil: making it big play for the struggling computer maker dell. you're on the phone with us, karl, good to have you back on. how are you doing this is a company, you honestly disagree. why is that? >> i'm a little surprised by that. it seems like this sale is a giveaway. i can go into details with you if i want. because dell has a lot of great stuff there and you know? neil: what you like about it? >> well, first of all, if i may say, it has been disingenuous as far as i'm concerned. i won't go into the ambiguity the issue really is that one part is the enterprise software. they put this together, buying software, putting it in together for 26 ye