mr. lapierre, chris cox and others i think would shock most americans. the think the language is paranoid, aggressive kp essentially is absolute. most americans would be scared by it. >> the incoming leader of the national rifle association is saying the nra -- hang on before i ask that question. i was just thinking about what you said. you said most people would be afraid by it? why would people be afraid of the nra? they have a lot of power and money. why would most people be afraid of it. >> most people see the nra in a news clip or a brief citation in the press story. i think if you sat that that audience like i did for a couple of hours an heard the paranoid rep zenation of the attacks on journalists, the president, anybody who doesn't agree with the nra i think most would find it disturbing. somehow they took the tragedy in newtown an made themselves the victims. i never saw a more self-pitying representation of an organization an on top of that they said they have the answer to gun violence and that the parents of the victims and newtown and other