you wanted to speak on behalf of patricia webb? >>> and kelly. maybe i didn't identify myself. >> no, i wasn't -- >>> i'm the executive assistant at the ihss public authority and i also serve as the staff liaison to the board. kelly dearman is the dhs, department of human services commissioner on our board and has been for several years. she has run her own elder law -- elder issues law practice and worked for the s.f. city attorney's office representing child welfare workers. she's very articulate and knowledgeable about budget and finance matters and has made a valuable contribution to our board. and i just wanted to add she has the full support of her fellow board members and the public authority. trisha, you may have read her e-mail, but due to the current state of her disability, she's pretty much confined to her apartment. we teleconference her into all our meetings. she served on the san francisco public authority board also for several years. four of these are renominations, excuse me. and she's been board secretary for most of that time.