patrick murphy is a former democratic congressman from pennsylvania and first iraq war veteran to serve in the united states congress. both are msnbc contributors. let's take a look, gentlemen, at what president obama said yesterday. let's take a look at this part where he rejects the war on terrorism nostrum. >> neither i or any president can promise the total defeat of terror. we will never erase the evil that lies in the hearts of some human beings nor stamp out every danger to our open society. but what we can do, what we must do, is dismantle networks that pose a direct danger to us and make it less likely for new groups to gain a foothold. all the while maintaining the freedoms and ideals that we defend. and to define that strategy, we have to make decisions based not on fear but on hard-earned wisdom. >> david, i think there was a lot of truth in that report yesterday. i didn't realize it until i heard it again. in this element, a couple elements, actually three of them here come to mind. this idea that terrorism, some country somewhere called the united states of terror, we go t

joining us now is msnbc contributor and former democratic congressman patrick murphy, a captain with 82nd airborne and part of the initial invasion force in iraq. he served on the intelligence committee and armed services committee, congressman murphy, thank you for being here. >> first time in person. >> is that true? >> that's true. >> i see you around here, but you never get to sit at my table. >> first time for everything. >> and feels like deja vu because i feel like it is 2002 and we're talking about iraq. you had a different perspective on iraq because you were part of the -- you were part of the invasion force preparing to head over there while the debate was going on. how do you hear these hawkish arguments that we ought to get involved and it will be easy to do so? >> it is like you said, deja vu all over again. the same hawks that were trying to get us into iraq are trying to get us into syria. syria is a lose-lose situation. the two sides, it is either hezbollah or al qaeda, what side do you want to take? the american people don't want either side because neither -- they'

patrick murphy, couldn't agree with you more. david corn, thank you, sir. >>> coming up, where is the irs scandal going from here? big question, actually. open question. the official overseeing the mess had been removed from duty. the acting director has been forced to resign. are the critics left now with anything more than their conspiracy theories? >>> plus when he couldn't sell his tooty fruity ice cream, he offered to fight any in the house for $1. he refuses to join his fellow republicans. >>> also why one republican congressman, has ronald reagan to thank for him becoming president. >>> let me finish with ted cruz's wish for an all-out political war. this is "hardball." the place for politics. [ musick ] i knew there were a lot of tech jobs available out there. i knew devry university would give me the skills that i needed to make one of those tech jobs mine. we teach cutting-edge engineering technology, computer information systems, networking and communications management -- the things that our students need to know in t

of the criminal justice practice at the naacp defense and education fund and msnbc contributor patrick murphy, a former democratic congressman from pennsylvania. this week we saw three separate sensational criminal cases c captivate the nation. and a fourth going unnoticed. what the three big ones have in common. in cleveland on thursday ariel castro was accused of imprisoning three young women for the last decade of kidnapping them, holding them against their will and raping them. the chorgs may grow worst as cuyahoga county prosecutor indicated after castro's arraignment. >> based on the facts i fully intend to seek charges for each and every act of sexual violence, rape, each day of kidnapping, every felonous assault, all his attempted murders and each act of aggravated murder he committed by terminating pregnancies. >> that part about terminating pregnancies by force is key since it could make castro eligible for capital punishment. >> my office of the county prosecutor will also engage in a formal process in which we evaluate already to seek charges eligible for the death penalty. the la

. >> since losing his seat in the last election to patrick murphy he had been hosting an obviously show for pj media. now heading for fox. >> en for fox, that's low. fox continues to go lower. plumbers. >> and there has been no triple crown winner in horse racing since 1978. it will stay that way for another year. kentucky winner orb at the weekend preakness stace, oxbo won the rates and it breaks the record for long time dewayne lucas who has won four kentucky derby with horses he has trained, more than any other trainer in the industry. it's now on to belmont. >> i am gad i didn't spend any money. >> on orb? >> i decided to buy powerball tickets instead. >> if only i bought it at that market in florida. >> right. pubs. >> pubs. >> zephyr hills, florida. indeed. peter, you know this town is all abuzz now over this irs scandal that's going bring president obama down. what's the truth about this? i have nep seen anything like this. >> i am glad to hear you say that. >> i have to tell you, i understand why they are doing it. i get the politics of this. but i think the white house is over