you were to not pay obamacare or be anti-this, or you have a nonprofit corporation against oakey's petuneral home & crematory, i'd be very careful. >> this is the agency that is supposed to enforce obamacare. say you don't pay a fine as toby brings up, what do you think this could mean for taxpayers who aren't necessarily conservative? >> well, unless something is done about it, it means if you stick your neck out and oppose the government in any way, you could be audited no matter who is in power. that has happened. toby is right, for many decades now. look at the tax system. we have 72,0 plus pages because people have bought off crooked politicians for so many decades that they've gotten so many favors that there is exemptions, 72,000-plus pages. if you get audited you hire accountants and lawyers and prove your case, you still are to pay your accountants and lawyers. it's a rotten system. that needs to be abolished and go to some type of flat tax. >> neil: gary b, the irs apologized. does that mean there might be somethg more behind that? what do you think that means basically for taxpaye