in stedman's ink-splattered work. it's easily identifiable. it resists para phrase. in fact, when asked when does he think cartoons deright-of-way the power, he said for the only thing of value is that you cannot say. it's what you cannot say. that's where a drawing is so important. that's the value of drawing. you can do something with a drawing that you couldn't say in words. he also said -- [inaudible] a experience with the david that you could -- no matter what words you use to describe kissinger's policy in the caribbean, the drawing came about because of a report on the caribbean that kissinger had chaired you couldn't capture what he captured with that picture. and another example of this is fallen to the history books is another lavigne picture of lyndon johnson showing the scar in the form vietnam. one of the scars suggest about cartoon and caricature, they can live on long after their initial exposure. and they have a permanent sei in the culture that words sometimes do and sometimes don't. and in that respect, to me, they are like poetry. they both resist

david levine captured that mingled evil and ecstasy and it's -- as the great british cartoonist ralph stedmanthings that are possible to put into words. that's the strength and distinguishes them. >> it seems like the power, you talk about fact ridicule is not something that can be sanitized into words once you see it this way. i wish we had more time. the book "the art of controversy." thank you. victor navasky. check it out. >>> up next, the immigration issue was expected to heat up again this week. the senate judiciary committee is meeting tomorrow to work through 300 amendments of the gang of eight plan. we have toure's thoughts on the heart of the matter next. [ male announcer ] away... [ laughing ] ...is the crackle of the campfire. it can be a million years old... cool. ...or a few weeks young. ♪ [ laughs ] away beckons from orion's belt. away...is a place that's closer than you think. find your away. for a dealer and the rv that's right for you, visit gorving.com. ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear! v8 v-fusion plus energy. natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veg