>> we have, the church that we belong to, trinity episcopal church, that has started a community-basedghthouses. it was in honor of ben, his name, but it really speaks to the youth in the community. >> it's an outreach program. >> it's an outreach program. >> for everyone. >> for everyone, religious, nonreligious, a place for kids to go that can be listened to, activities, people to counsel. it's a place of -- it's safe for them to talk or to celebrate together. and that's a positive thing. it's hugely positive. that is also part of the promise. we have to remember that a lot of this change, from what we experienced listening to peter talk in the concert, i have to remember when i have my angry days, there's positive change. ben tells me, you know, "mama, there's positive things. remember love wins." he's right. >> tell me about your angry days. >> we have gone to a grief counselor and other counselors who talk about, you know, it's not "you're sad and you're angry then you start to get over it," or whatever -- >> the seven stages of -- >> you know? >> right. >> it doesn't work like th