we welcome cullen hoback. >> right.s really -- it's really vital what happened, and it was one of those things where i would talk to people about the issues surrounding the nsa and what has been going on for years and years. and it really took the smoking gun, edward snowden coming out and revealing something that everyone can understand. these phone records, oh my god, they are keeping records of everyone i ever called. and they can go back in time and look into those phone conversations. and that has woken everyone up which is great and really a catalyst for change. >> michael: and what you focus on is what we all do just about every day, or at least a few times a week. what are we giving up when we quickly click on the accept terms. >> it can be anything and everything. even in the terms the other party, the company says they can change them at anytime. but in many cases, they take pretty much anything on their site in perpetuity. anything you do on there is virtually their property. this is the trade, right. nothing