harriet lane did that. so first ladies who get actively involved in the politics and find out who the supporters are, where the problems are, who can be brought over, who is on the fence, what it takes to bring them over, that is the kind of political partnership that she was. >> how do you envision [indiscernible] [laughter] >> if that happens, it will be an absolutely fascinating turn of events. first off, he is a two-term former president. how can you ignore that? and one shouldn't. if she were president and he were first man from a first gentleman -- i don't know what we will call him -- [laughter] the country didn't know what to call first ladies for a long time. when refers competence a book on first ladies came out in 1981, it was just just called "the ladies of the white house." for a file, they were called sometimes democratic queens. [laughter] and that often would be leveled with an insult. in the early days of the country, if you said you are acting like a queen, you're saying that you are actin

harriet lane was into the ethic about all things european. when her husband -- when her uncle was selected as minister, she was over the moon about the idea that she might get to accompany him as a companion. upon presentation to queen vittoria in the course eight james, ms. lane made a great expection -- a great impression. the queen was impressed with her. very interesting french of that would continue throughout both of their lives. this bracelet is actually a gift that the queen gave harriet. it is a beautiful gold bracelet. inside and have her, harriet lane, and the date of 1867 when she receives the gift. the hind me here we have a lithograph of queen victoria and also her husband prince albert. these were a nomadic -- a diplomatic gift present it to president james buchanan and his first lady, harriet lane. they've actually hung in the the white house and were brought back here to their home in wheatland. harriet lane spent quite a bit of time traveling with her uncle, james buchanan. they also entertained international visitors during

harriet lane did that. so first ladies who get actively involved in the politics and find out who the supporters are, where the problems are, who can be brought over, who is on the fence, what it takes to bring them over, that is the kind of political partnership that she was. >> how do you envision [indiscernible] [laughter] >> if that happens, it will be an absolutely fascinating turn of events. first off, he is a two-term former president. how can you ignore that? and one shouldn't. if she were president and he were first man from a first gentleman -- i don't know what we will call him -- [laughter] the country didn't know what to call first ladies for a long time. when refers competence a book on first ladies came out in 1981, it was just just called "the ladies of the white house." for a file, they were called sometimes democratic queens. [laughter] and that often would be leveled with an insult. in the early days of the country, if you said you are acting like a queen, you're saying that you are actin