. >> that's allen chambers in a documentary hosted by lisa ling who joins us tonight. he says, quote, i am profoundly sorry that many have walked away from their faith and that some have chose on the end tear lives. yesterday, exodus, international, officially closed up shop. we will talk to lisa ling in a moment and first we want to tell you what exodus has been telling people for decades now. back when they were saying repairtive therapy could work. >> men, women, looking for a way to exercise homosexuality here at a gathering in phoenix called love one out. -- "love won out." >> they're searching for more information. >> christian ministries offer referrals to christian ministry programs. >> have a good day now. >> but more than 120 local branches in north america, exodus international calls itself the world's largest gay service. >> you got to have healthy expectations. >> exodus president says his own sexuality followed a long and difficult path. how did you do it? >> it's not like a light switch. i didn't flip it on, flip it off. it was years of work. >> not ever

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as i said, we'll talk with lisa ling in a moment but what he has been telling people for decades. here is a report our gary filed back when they said the therapy would work. >> men, women looking for a way to exercise homosexuality here at a gathering in phoenix called love one out. >> there will be people there that are just, you know, searching for more information. >> christian ministries off referrals to various treatment programs. >> have a good day. >> thank you. >> with more than 120 local branchs in north america, they call themself the largest ex guy referral service. >> you have to have healthy expectations. >> alan chambers says his own journey from homo sexual assaulty to hetero sexual assaulty wasn't easy. >> it was years of work. >> not everybody had the same result. >> sean, when did you realize you were gay? >> at the age of 6 i realized i was different from other boys, and it wasn't until later on i associated the word with that. i was ten. >> growing up gay in illinois wasn't easy for sean o'donald. his catholic parents were loving but the kids at school weren't.

in lisa ling's special report god and gays, they actually confronted you and you apologized to them directly. i want to play one clip from that documentary from a man named sean. >> i woke up one day, my friend went to work and he had a loaded gun in his closet and i was so happy about dying it felt like i was opening a christmas present. that's how i felt. i went over to the closet and i stood there and i pray that prayer that i had prayed probably a million times, and i said god, why will you not change me? and i can't describe it, but something from the outside, alan, told me not to take my life, and i said god, why won't you change me? and it said to me because there's nothing that i need to change about you. >> amen. >> i was wondering what personally was going through your mind when -- when you heard their stories? >> it was excruciatingly difficult to sit there and listen to that. it was a crushing weight to -- to just simply hear their trama and their pain and their -- their anguish and what was going through my mind was i would do anything to have -- have fixed this. >> one of the t

. >> lisa ling spoke to allen chambers for the special on the own network. first, it's great to have you on the program. >> thank you. >> did it surprise you he's apologized and they shut their doors? >> it did surprise me when he wanted to apologize to all gay people and people harmed by exodus. it acknowledged thousands of people had their lives damaged by exodus. it begged the question, what now? last year, they stopped therapy. this year, he wants to apologize to people they have harmed. what now? we witnessed what now last night. >> what does it mean? he's not saying being gay -- is he saying being gay is okay? >> so, he won't say it, he believed that homosexuality -- he tries to cure people. he says it's not possible. he says he has same-sex attraction as does 99.9% of people who have gone to the programs. >> the people i interviewed that say they are gay or ex-gay, they have the attractions. they still have the thoughts. they are just forcing themselves or trying to train themselves not to act on them. they are repressing, trying to not act on it. >>

in lisa ling's special report god and gays, they actually confronted you and you apologized to them directlyo play one clip from that documentary from a man named sean. >> i woke up one day, my friend went to work and he had a loaded gun in his closet and i was so happy about dying it felt like i was opening a christmas present. that's how i felt. i went over to the closet and i stood there and i pray that prayer that i had prayed probably a million times, and i said god, why will you not change me? and i can't describe it, but something from the outside, alan, told me not to take my life, and i said god, why won't you change me? and it said to me because there's nothing that i need to change about you. >> amen. >> i was wondering what personally was going through your mind when -- when you heard their stories? >> it was excruciatingly difficult to sit there and listen to that. it was a crushing weight to -- to just simply hear their trama and their pain and their -- their anguish and what was going through my mind was i would do anything to have -- have fixed this. >> one of the things you

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last night on oprah's own network, lisa ling hosted a documentary in which allan chambers met with someople who had been through his program. this is shaun's story. a guy named shaun. let's listen. >> i was told more than once as a teen that i'm demon possessed because i'm gay. >> shaun served three tours in the navy. he didn't ask, he didn't tell and he barely survived. >> when i left exodus, i had joined the military and i was just at my end. i didn't realize i was going into such a deep pit of despair and anger. i woke up one day, my friend had gone to work. and he had a loaded gun in his closet. and i was so happy about dying it felt like i was opening a christmas present. that's honestly how i felt. i went over to the closet and i stood there, and i prayed that prayer that i had prayed probably a million times. i said, god, why will you not change me? and i can't describe it but something from the outside, alan, told me not to take my life. and i said, god why won't you change me and it said to me, because there's nothing that i need to change about you. >> let me go for some posit

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