but to speak to the poicht, i guess i'm the ttc millenial speaker these days.peak to millenial, i do think there's a certain point where flexism becomes very demanding where when you expect it, rather than see it as a benefit of where you work, i recently had someone demand it who was going to work there to be able to work from home all the time which can get extreme. >> and we are out of time and that's it for this edition of "to the contrary." please follow me on twitterk>@ç contrary. at beens.org/to the contrary, where the discussion continues. whether you agree or think to the contrary, please join us next time. funding for "to the contrary" provided by: the cornell douglas foundation, committed to encouraging stewardship of the environment, land conservation, watershed protection, and eliminating harmful chemicals. additional funding provided by: the colcom foundation, the wallace genetic foundation the e. rhodes and leona b. carpenter foundation, and by the charles a. frueauff foundation. for a transcript, please visit our pbs website, www.pbs.org/totheco

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we've seen recent poll numbers suggesting he is losing some of these millenials. this is the reason why. jenna. jenna: we'll watch this port of the story. ed, thank you. jon: for more on the latest developments let's bring in bob cues act managing editor of "the hill." the president will meet with the privacy board that nobody ever heard of before, bob. should we take comfort in that? >> well it shows that the administration is playing defense here. president obama ordered attorney general eric holder to meet with the media. president obama meeting with civil liberties board riddled with problems over past years. a couple people quit because it doesn't have a lot of teeth. maybe there will be calls to increase the power of the board that very few have heard about. it shows the president is trying to play defense as ed henry said this hurts him with his base. that's why his numbers have taken a hit. the administration is making a case that these programs have helped thwart a lot of attacks but some are skeptical of that. jon: speaking of attacks, we were told by di

those most likely to be going through the motions at work were millenials, baby boomers, people with college degrees and guys named gary. thanks for ruining the economy, gary. discuss in the -- >> lightning rooooouuuuunnnndd. lightning round. >> like you do a lot of tough jobs. >> i do. >> is this just a woosified generation? are we too hard on them? what is going on here? >> i think so. i think all of the problems from the skills gap, unemployment, all of the stuff we normally talk about, i just think we took some bad advice, some really, really awful advice. one of the things we are working on now is this idea that cliche work smart, not hard was more than a platitude but something you believe. if you google it, it is everywhere. my guidance counselor -- can i break out a visual aid? >> he has a gun! >> take jesse. >> this is on my guidance counselor's wall. work smart, not hard. >> you are saying that is wrong. >> it is worse than wrong. if wrong were people this would be china. basically if you don't get a degree you will end up like this guy. >> when you say what is wrong with t

now the company has not given a reason although analysts suggests he doesn't appeal to millenials. >> has had a goodyear. they were up this year. when you look at the advertising while he's iconic, i'm not sure he's effective. you can certainly test the research. i'm sure they spent a lot of money. and it wasn't exactly sexy. it wasn't afeeling their quote-unquote younger audience. this is a huge growth company. they have very accessible affordable clothing pap lot of locations pap lot of big sizes that guys like myself can appreciate. and i think we're going to hear what really happened down the road. >> let me read from "usa today." they said basically that there's a suggestion that they need a new young face. in the early days george zimmer came off as a city slicker who could sell you style at a competitive price. he later began to feel like your father. would you buy a suit from your father. if age is a question, it raises the question if you're a father would you buy a suit from someone who would fire your dad. >> they are not looking to sell suits to my father. you haven't seen

don't know when you were born but at some point relatively recently and now this generation of millenials run agmocking with no respect for institutions whatsoever. >> snowden is a guy who saw something monstrous happening and it appeals to his conscience and he had to speak out about it in a way that made him persona non grata in this country. we understand that in a different context as a dissident. we need to revibe that word for him. >> tim dickinson's says he's not a disso lute youth. jonathan, what's your response? >> i wouldn't say that edward snowden is a dissident youth. david brooks' column resonated with me. he writes along these lines quite frequently about the atomization of society, about how young people coming up today don't have a sense of community, mutual responsibility. and so in that vein, i thought that the david brooks was dead on. i don't view edward snowden as a hero, but i don't view him as a traitor, as well. in order to be ate a traitor, you have to reveal some huge state secret that endangers the country. as walter pinkus in the wost "washington post" pointed

that is why millenials will give the president some degree of the past.he president is the commander and chief -- commander in chief. let's hope he continues to try harder and reach out to the hill. the system of this function in washington is disappointing to say the least. callingxt up is moses from florida. he is calling as an independent. he is 30 years old. thank youd wanted to guys for what you do. it is a great service. it shows the bill ritter aspects of this country that we can comment on a show -- it shows the greater aspects of this country that we can comment on a show like this. in reference to why my specific age group has a lower approval rating of 0, when we were the age group that supported his rise into -- breaking of zero, when we were the age with the support his rise into office, we were disillusioned. outthe first time, i went and volunteer and i was canvassing and knocking on doors. as far as the policies and what not, i have been pretty see obama's to handling of certain things like guantanamo, the surveillance that is going on, a

the way where i hope that it goes, then how does that sink into the culture of young people of millenials just visitors here. >> let me finish up with you. we've been talking a lot about the impact of trayvon martin of rachel jeantel, i as a parent positioning about trayvon martin's parents. how are they holding up at this time? this must have been a tough week for them? >> it was a very tough week for them. remember, a the lo of the evidence is reputation. they have seen and had to hear the gunshot time and time again. they have seen and had to see his body laying on the ground, including the one you saw his dad had to leave the courtroom, showed his face. every time they do it, it's another experience for them. they are enduring and trying to hold strong. obviously it's very tough. they are very committed to seeing this through all the way. >> attorney parks, thank you so much. of course, we will all be riveted watching to see what happens next. also thank you, you're one of the people out there very early on on this question. daniel and appeary, khalil is staying with us. next, new yor

just look at who is adopting these technologies and business models first, it's pretty much all the millenial generation, the earliest adopters and it's a phenomenal shift in behavior knowles underemployed generation in many generations so they're doing the math, they're very smart consumers. they're not nearly as brand associated as their previous generations. and they're much more open-mined to sharing business models, sharing business models, hack sirs versus ownership has become their mantra, whether it's addressed from the runway, car from zip car or a carom uber-or groupon, they're coming getting together. >> the coincidence of the spread of mobile technology and the recession, think, created a hay day for the sharing economy in a way that makes someone wonder whether the good times can keep rolling. so it makes sense for young people, who don't have much money to buy a car, to share a car, and makes sense for young people who want a ped -- pedicure but can't afford the full price, gift it from groupon but we have seen from groupon's experience in the last few years and the future, it's

new survey, millenials, those are humans born -- >> between 1980 and 2000. they want their co-workers, like all of us, to be more like their second family. back in my day, back when i was alive, i don't have to be your friend or family member. lets just go in, do the work and go back home. they want a sense of family at the office. >> i don't buy that. i think a lot of co-workers try to sabotage you anyway. >> wow. >> cut throat. mike just slipped something in my coffee. he wants to see my crash and born. you can't trust people at work. on the straight and narrow, don't mix world. >> on the other hand when i was single and younger, my work colleagues were my family. we'd go to dinner together, had lots of meals together, stayed lei late together, overnight together. >> that's true. >> it was great. a complete bonding experience. before you're mattered, it's nice to have them as your family. >> now you don't know their names. >> jesse. >> nice to see you. >> weigh in on facebook, twitter whatever. >> find us all on twitter. meanwhile here is somebody we consi

we really love this one because it's cordless and you know millenials and cords bad scene. it poaches egg and toasts bread at the same time. it also soft boils and hard boils eggs. >> wow. >> you can heat up the canadian bacon. >> on top at the same time. >> pop it out, a perfect sandwich. >> one-stop shop i love it. >> entire kitchen if you're a 22-year-old guy. >> it's better than the one i had growing up. business cards. >> these are personalized business cards and they make a nice impression if you're going to a job interview and you don't need much, it's okay you don't have a job yet, just your name, e-mail, twitter handle and shows the potential employer you have your act together. >> over here is a slow cooker, this is always good, if you want to get out of the the house quickly and come back to a nice dinner. >> well we call this the gateway to cooking for young people because you can just throw stuff in there and it comes out delicious and you know, as a bonus for a recent college grad you can make the apartment smell like mom's pot roast. >> set it and forget it s