robert walker, form is congressman and julie stewart, families against mandatory minimums. lyle dennis, deal flores, leslie harris from the center for democracy and technology and i don't know whether general is here. and craig holman from public innocence. i'm impressed that a 15 people interviewed, so many of you showed up and we are honored by your presence. we hope that you will ask questions as well. without further ado, i give you back leetch area not. >> thank you, laura, thank you for everyone at the aclu for having me here today. in the audience, how many of you are lobbyists? how many of you are policy advocates? okay come i have to admit that it is a little bit strange for me to be here talking to lobbyists about lobbying. because usually it is the other way around and i'm the one asked questions and listening to what you have it. we will turn the tables for just a few moments. let's talk about what motivated me to write this book. i was motivated to write the book in part because of what laura said. the general public content public has a very inaccurate view of

robert walker, former congressman of walker-wexler. julie stewart, families against mandatory minimums. lyle dennis. dale florio. leslie harris from the center for democracy and technology. i don't know whether daniel is here? no? and craig homan from public citizen. have i forgotten any of our dear lobbyists? i'm just impressed that out of 15 people interviewed, so many of you showed up. and we're honored by your presence. and we hope you'll ask questions as well. so without further ado, i give you beth leech. you can clap. [applause] [laughter] >> thank you, laura, and thank you to everyone here at the aclu for having me here today. so in the audience how many of you are lobbyists? how many of you are policy advocates? [laughter] okay. i have to admit, it's a little bit strange for me to be here talking to a room full of lobbiests about lobbying, because usually it's the other way around, and ask i'm the one canning the questions and listening to what you have to say. but we'll turn the tables for just a minute and talk a little bit

robert walker, former congressman, of walker wechsler. julie stewart, mandatory minimums. lyle dennis. dale flory o, leslie harris, from the center for democracy and technology, i don't know whether daniel horseses sneer and craig holeman from public citizen. if hey forgotten anybody? i'm just impressed that out of 15 people interviewed, so many of you showed up and were honored by your presence and we hope you'll ask questions as well. so, without further adieu, give you beth leech. >> you can clap. [applause] >> thank you, laura, and thank you too -- everyone here for eaving me here today. so, in the audience, how many of you are lobbyists? how many of you are policy advocates? okay. i have to admit it's also strange for me to be here talking to a roomful of lobbyists about lobbying because usually it's the other way around and i'm the one asking the questions and listening to what you have to say. but we'll turn the table for just a minute, and talk a little bit about what motivated know write this book. i was motivated to write the book in part because of what laura sa

before edward snowden, aldrich ames, robert hanson and john walker jr., all work in the service of america the rot set in. all remain in prison. one notorious spy who avoided incarceration became a toast of the left in the 1970s and remain in the cold for most of his adult life. a man without a country, after the u.s. revoked his passport. later, cuba became his substitute him. his weakness for women and spirits led him into the clutches of the soviet spy apparatus in latin america, encouraged by the eager sponsors, he wrote a sensational book about his adventure, entitled, inside the company, a cia diary. in it, he appended names of 250 agents, working for the cia, across the world. much later, soviet defectors would reveal that the kgb had helped him with the book, operationally and financially. many of the intelligence community blamed him for the assassination of cia station chief richard welch by greek terrorists, the very year his book came out. he always insisted that selling out his country constituted a matter of conscience. he despised the u.s. support of military regimes in sout

walker. >>mark: they don't want to go to the possibility of defining of marriage for the state so roberts isin the standing of a private party to defend the constitutionality of the state statute. that is almost exactly what robert said back in march when they heard this case. pretty interesting at mirror in his language initially use when this was first heard from the supreme court back in march. doma was a big issue here. same-sex couples will be able to file jointly correct? >> post of this ruling, it will include whether or not the couples who were married under prop. 8 and that interim period between the state supreme court find it prop. 8 the right to marry and prop. 8 being passed, whether they will be able to qualify for the dolma benefits as well. ..doma benefits. washington, n.y., massachusetts, connecticut, district of columbia, wisconsin, they will all have questions and they will put out a ruling to see how that will affect the social security, federal forms will have to be changed. doma is a big deal in terms of the face of the federal government and the face of gay marriage. >