in washington, d.c., we met with acfei's former president and ceo, john bridges.initially, what did you think the organization did or was doing? >> i thought they would advance the practice... >> bergman: bridges was in charge of acfei when leah bartos became a member of the organization. he quit soon after because, he says, he could not change the way the organization does business. you were cautioned by people who knew you. what did they tell you? >> i think the assessment of the organization is that it's looked at as a certification mill-- that if you send in a check, you will receive a certificate. i think the focus was primarily on revenue versus professionalism. >> money was more important than the quality of what was going on. >> i think that's a way to sum it up, correct. >> we asked for the failure rate on the tests. we didn't get an answer. >> i would say the failure rate is probably less than one percent. so if you want a certificate that says you are certified in forensics, this is the place to go to. >> we spoke with someone who is knowledgeable about