i think you'll find i approached that just as bob mueller did. >> thank you.sing the resources of the fbi to investigate violation of our gun laws, as you did in virginia. not only for their own sake but also because so many of those gun violence are related to other kinds of crime whether drug dealing or extortion. can you talk a little bit about the porn you would bring to violations of gun violence prevention clause as the directer of the fbi? >> yes, senator. i think in general the enforcement of those laws is essential to crime production. escaped dcial -- especially violent crime. i believe a so i think it's important that the government is whole approach aggressively. i think the fbi's role in addressing those is more in the context of complex violent cases, gang cases, and it's more of an atf responsibility. i have a fashion for this as cro the board. ly ensure we continue to do what the directer has done look at those seriously in the complex gang case. >> i welcome that passion. i think it is tremendously important. as you know, one of the arguments

. >> i'm a big fan of bob mueller, the f.b.i. retiring director. but you can see the loss of confidence in the f.b.i. in the whitey bulger case, we've seen me boston. the f.b.i. was a criminal enterprise in that case. they were -- so the skepticism and the cynicism is based in fact as well. >> i do think it exaggerates it. most federal workers are quite impressive and are doing quite good work. and the debate that -- you know, chris christie may have with rand paul where he said, you know, this libertarianism on the mark -- i want him to run against rand paul and have the debate. >> i agree but we're talking about secrecy here and secrecy is narcotic. the more information i have that you don't have, it is narcotic to the person who holds it. that's not liberal, that's not conservative, that's human nature and that's why there has to be a debate. >> that's true, but you can't find a war without secrecy and you probably can't do a lot of things in government without secrecy and the more transparency we have had the less trust in government we've had

yes, senator, i think you would find that i would approach such as is bob mueller what. >> thank you.ources to investigate as you did in virginia, not only for their own sake, but also because so many of those gun violence, related to other kinds of crime, whether drug dealing or extortion, can you talk a little bit about the importance that you would bring to violations of our gun violence prevention laws as the director of the fbi? >> yes, senator. in general, the an portion of those -- the enforcement of those laws is essential. i always believed that a gun in the position of a felon or a drug dealer is a homicide that has not happened yet. inhink the fbi's role addressing those particular offenses more in the context of violence crime cases, game and -- gang cases, but i have a passion for this across the board, and i will ensure that we continue to do what director mueller has done, look at those in the series of these complex gang case is tough. >> i welcome that passion. i think it is important because of you know what of the arguments made against the improvement of these kind

jim comey's starting his nomination hearings today, and bob mueller's still on the job, and we're going to have a confirmed commissioner the take over that job. gaps at the cia also are short. of the three agencies we depend upon as americans to be nonpartisan and efficient are the cia, the fb, and i the irs. we can't go on for months without a leader, particularly in these circumstances. .. section of one of the large -- they have somebody who was targeted because he was the hillary supporter back in 2008. they are convinced of this. so that is not healthy for the system. we need nonpartisan investigation to establish facts, finish the justice department investigation, and the new commissioner who is going to be honest with the congress and the people and this will take a long time to restore trust and the question, minutes, i want to finish with two points, one, tax reform. i don't think this helps prospects for tax reform. there are some who are trying to say this just demonstrates the need for tax reform. obviously in the more conservative corners of the republican party people are

we have, i think, very good testimony by bob mueller. we have a lot of good information out there that helps the american public understand these programs, but it all came out late. it all came out in response to a leaker. there was no organized plan for how we rationally declassify this so that the american people can participate in the debate. i think there is an executive branch reaction towards classification. i think that reaction is in part because of the advantage it gives the executive branch relative to the legislative branch which can't be classified. i think over and over again we found looking back we are worse off for that effort in the first instance. so i would really urge you to take a look at this. when this thing bursts, sthrs this old saying, i'm not going to get it right, but something about the rumor is all the way across-town but before the truth can get its boots on. you live that experience in the last couple months. i hope this has an effect on you because this is a recurring problem. and we really need to be bal