and former c.e.o. of intel. stanford university president john hennessy is speaking there. jorge or go rogue or the use of war president bolivia david gergen political commentator and presidential advisor chris matthews from his talk show will and will reilly former e.p.a. administrator so these are top level officials they're not that these are not members there's a sara lee. they're just invited guests so the members are two thousand or so and then they'll invite other thousand people to come over to somebody from the very high at all ends of society from media to education to politics foreign diplomats former heads of state peter talk of the lakeside chads you mentioned and those are going on what are those. well they're. daily speech given by some high level official or corporate official government official. that all the men will go down in here so it's considered as private it's off the record there's no press allowed they're not they're not public speeches so it's considered for a cutting edge of whatever the topic is and what makes the bohemian grove different reall