shelling and bombing of civilian cities and therefore automatically where the civilian population is not fled and they have fled from everywhere all they have fled from a large part of these areas you're going to get a lot of civilian casualties let's take a historic perspective here from the very beginning the rebels the rebel side was encouraged by some of the international players to go on and fight for their democratic rights because they struggled initially at least was presented as a democratic struggle now when you know that house of the population and that is women and children that and i think we know from social studies that women and children would. usually tend to accept all sorts of atrocities rather than having war i mean they they would subject themselves to humiliation maybe they would suggest subject to them selves to tyranny for the sake of saving lives i think men are far less likely from social studies to you accept something like that so when you are suggesting that the rebels should be if. encouraged in that democratic struggle and you know well in advance that

over 32,500 civilians were murdered. the vast majority, found by coalition patrols, were unidentified corpses, dumped, often in the river tigris. more than 10,000 were found shot in the head. nearly 450 were decapitated. over 160 were children. a senior iraqi army officer, who wanted to remain anonymous, witnessed the horror. >> [speaking arabic] >> [singing] >> in 2006, 2007, you had bodies dropped at up to 100, 150 a day with drills, bodies floating in the river with terrible signs of torture, and killings. and they were done by militias or policemen that affiliated with militias. >> floating in the tigris. burned with chemicals. body did not have head or hands. 12-year-old male, cinder block smashed into his face and tied to his head. >> the child was about 6 years old. several small holes, originally thought to be gunshot wounds, were holes caused by a drill. >> while the numbers of bodies can be counted, there are no reliable figures for the numbers of iraqis who have simply disappeared. in the baghdad morgue, there

that civilians had died.n fact, there are documents showing that. but somehow and for some reason those records of civilian deaths under obama just slide away from the record. they're just not there for 2009 and we don't really have a good explanation as to why that is. some really curious omissions, but otherwise, a very important document. it adds to this growing canon of publicly available evidence that says, you know what? this claim that cia killed 60 civilians doesn't add up. it doesn't add up at all. all of the questioning needs to be focused back on the cia right now, in my view. they are the holders of the key information we need to be viewing. who did they kill, why did they kill them, when did they kill them? >> chris, could you talk about the bureau of investigative journalists continue his work on drones? awarded ones just of the leading journalism prizes for that work. >> it is an extraordinary commitment from the bureau, as you know, the bureau is a not- for-profit based here in london and does

that is why so many civilians are killed because the rebels fight among the civilians. you have to understand here is a phone line, here is where they fight, like a conventional war. in the army is coming here. so that was another picture that was important to find. if then they are iconic or not, we tried to show, we try to select the pictures that tell the story. i do not know where the families go. and some of the guys say, where am i going? i will stay here. this is my house. i have nowhere to go. my brother was killed yesterday and i am going to stay here in till the end. it was really strong to see people that were basically waiting to die. that was every day. >> you talked about that also. a fundamental loss of human dignity where you have to flee your home but you don't know what is going to happen. >> absolutely. some of the flareups and the meeting points were opposition soldiers. there are civilians there. they do not want to leave. they are not going to leave, the shelling is so bad they have to. their apartment might be hit two or three times. so unless the

he keeps mentioning this this ratio of how many killed in the drone war versus civilians and how many core al qaeda that's not what i was referring to to begin with i mean i was talking about overall our policies in the middle east since nine eleven have killed far more civilians then then terrorists and the i'm talking about the iraq war which reasonable estimates peer reviewed estimates go higher than six hundred fifty thousand people if you think all of those were terrorists to go. into a mental institution i'm talking also about in afghanistan talking about in pakistan as well with the drone war you know the drone war is it can easily be talked about in terms of how many terrorists we kill but that obviously depends on whether you trust the government to say when a terrorist is killed or when some nameless landless no civilian is killed we know from the new york times for example that the obama administration considers every one killed in the drone war to be a terrorist unless they're posthumously proven to be guilty of terrorism and so you know these numbers are a little bit on t

filled with civilians. i started running andso we gotn was surprised to see the plane diving and then to bombs came out. -- it threw me on the ground a little bit. all of the glass shattered. and then we kept running. that was my first syrian experience. to did a few circles and then it emptied a 50 caliber machine gun on the square. that was my second day in syria. that was pretty much very clear to me this was a different conflict than we have covered so far. a message in this next image. one of the most chilling photos, a man with a little boy, and a toy grenade launcher because the little boy is too small to handle the weight of an actual one. it seems he believed this little boy is going to need that skill when he is old enough. >> i took that picture at 10:00 in the morning. that was time for school, not for playing war. and the smile of the civilian, it makes you think it is the whole atmosphere of the place is a conflict. people werelosed, taking positions, children were playing with toys or walking

that is why so many civilians are killed because the rebels fight among the civilians. you have to understand here is a phone line, here is where they fight, like a conventional war. in the army is coming here. so that was another picture that was important to find. if then they are iconic or not, we tried to show, we try to select the pictures that tell the story. i do not know where the families go. and some of the guys say, where am i going? i will stay here. this is my house. i have nowhere to go. my brother was killed yesterday and i am going to stay here in till the end. it was really strong to see people that were basically waiting to die. that was every day. >> you talked about that also. a fundamental loss of human dignity where you have to flee your home but you don't know what is going to happen. >> absolutely. some of the flareups and the meeting points were opposition soldiers. there are civilians there. they do not want to leave. they are not going to leave, the shelling is so bad they have to. their apartment might be hit two or three times. so unless the

and there are likely to cause more civilian casualties and more local outrage. other high level government leaders have claimed the benefits of drones long before president obama addressed the issue of civilian casualties in drone warfare here's john brennan back in april of two thousand and twelve at the time he was an assistant to the president for national security and counterterrorism we conduct targeted strikes because they are necessary to mitigate actual ongoing threat to stop plots prevent future attacks and to save american lives but quantifiable data are proving this has been scarce due to the secrecy of the drone program exact figures of drone strikes were not disclosed in the latest study because that information is classified but it calls into question just how much more precise drones really are compared to man their planes the researchers that conducted this study have an idea they told the guardian quote these findings show us that it's not about the technology it's about how the technology is used drone darn magically better at avoiding civilian

here as a civilian and would contest that.ut clearly, things here are becoming worse for civilians either way, whichever way these statistics are interpreted. >> the statistics are high, jane. if it's this bad now, what will it be like when forces leave the country in 2014? >> well, that's right. the international forces have already stepped back from the fight to a certain extent. the afghan forces themselves are taking on more responsibility for fighting the table, but yes, of course, the is a huge row at moment between washington, d.c. and the kabul government in what form they'll take in the future, whether u.s. troops will be here at all. the bilateral security agreement which needs to be signed soon, the negotiations have not seemed to have stalled in the midst of this argument. the pentagon and the u.s. military have spoken out in recent days saying they want to keep u.s. military here just to train the afghans. they've been working with the afghan military for years, trying to increase their capabilities to bring peace

of war spent use of force civilians will be victims but then of course to apply the concepts of theory or term in a. completely different story because you frank. is it a completely different story if we know how bad the war really nice for the civilians i guess some might argue that it is precisely because we know the dynamics of war so well that well some countries would resort to using war as a policy tool exactly i think we find ourselves into in the real politic politics where interests of states or such they they may lead to to go beyond the threshold see the problem with with series of international relations is that. there's a term acceptance that conflict is not bad we have conflicts every day being that home at work but the we want to avoid conflict turns why but of course i think that that perception conflict. you know spread all over the world is only pertinent to a signal number of countries because people on the receiving end of those policies sydney don't think that conflict is ok yes i think of course one theory. democratic peace which actually has been found by a termi

and there are likely to cause more civilian casualties and more local leverage. other high level government leaders have claimed the benefits of drones long before president obama addressed the issue of civilian casualties in drone warfare here's john brennan back in april of two thousand and twelve at the time he was an assistant to the president for national security and counterterrorism we conduct targeted strikes because they are necessary to mitigate actual ongoing threat to stop plots prevent future attacks and to save american lives but quantifiable data are proving this has been scarce due to the secrecy of the drone program exact figures of drone strikes were not disclosed in the latest study because that information is classified but it calls into question just how much more precise drones really are compared to man their planes the researchers that conducted this study have an idea they told the guardian quote these findings show us that it's not about the technology it's about how the technology is used drone darn magically better at avoiding civilian

military actions in yemen this number includes the sixty nine civilians who've been killed this year alone. keep in mind these statistics speak to the civilian casualty count just in yemen in a country that's rarely if ever spoken about in the corporate media yet the details that are given about the country paint a picture of a lawless landscape ruled by militants and terrorists he said on harming america a country so dangerous that the u.s. has to continuously conduct targeted assassinations using drones even if it means civilian casualties in the process now while some of you watching this program may object to the united states policy of extrajudicial assassinations recent polling shows that at a staggering sixty six percent of americans still support the use of unmanned drones to kill alleged terrorists. but when it comes to drones or america's other controversial issue on tom oh perhaps no one has felt the hardships more than the people of yemen recently a delegation of american activists with code pink travel to yemen as a good as goodwill ambassadors hoping to raise awareness

security council resolution to protect civilians against. respects eventually to regime change so what you're saying is that they. they then taken to calling the potential severity of the circumstances so they miscalculated the impact of that judgment what it was like do you think they understood that it could actually prolong the war well in libya actually the intervention helped to shut down the comp but it was very clear from the very beginning that syria is not libya and i think most political scientists even at that point for saying that i think that there has been a failure to early going to how do you intervene when you have a position which may be considered to have legitimate you know concerns to going to . recognize their concerns are legitimate but it's something else entirely to recognize that as the legitimate representatives of the syrian people and to prep you they totally recreate the other side of this that still enjoys the support of a significant proportion of the syrian population would you agree with that well i think th

military actions and yemen this number includes the sixty nine civilians who've been killed this year alone. keep in mind these statistics speak to the civilian casualty count just in yemen and a country that's rarely if ever spoke. about in the corporate media yet the details that are given about the country paint a picture of a lawless landscape ruled by militants and terrorists be set on harming america a country so dangerous that the u.s. has to continuously conduct targeted assassinations using drones even if it means civilian casualties in the process now while some of you watching this program may object to the united states policy of extrajudicial assassinations recent polling shows that that a staggering sixty six percent of americans still support the use of unmanned drones to kill alleged terrorists. but when it comes to drones or america's other controversial issue on top perhaps no one has felt the hardships more than the people of yemen recently a delegation of american activists with code pink travel to yemen as a good as goodwill ambassadors hoping to raise awareness o

thank you the next slide is the civilian position slide. as you can tell in 2009 we were at 3 hundred and 64 it was our high water when we were at 44 again. that was the year we went to the 10 hour day. ebb and flow we're trying to do the best we can and use as much bailing wire just to get to christmas of this year where the staffing goes up. the next slide is the new public safety building update. still construction gambling became in january the topping of sermon it was in april. moving is scheduled for november of next year and this year includes the equipment purchases which were not fundable by emergency bond >> excuse me. supervisor avalos. i just ask the controller in the past were there had been certification with a number of officers who would be out in the field whether or not there's been a followup to see if that's happened or not and he said we've never done that before and the police department does put officers out in the fields because of the civiliantion but he can have the numbers in the next two weeks were. the overall g

regarding civilians as an incidental collateral damage if you like i think it's probably true to say that most of the casualties we're talking about around one hundred thousand most of the casualties have been civilians and very many of them it's very hard to say how many have been killed by the the government tactics of fighting the war by shelling and bombing civilian towns because that's where they believe the rebels are i think what's crucial in the western narrative on the syrian conflict is that the line between combatants and civilians is really really blurred and i think i would argue that it is than for political reasons because when we have quite a mother who is nursing her baby somewhere in homes and her male neighbor with a kalashnikov who is a attacking in nearby army checkpoint you know these two people they may have the same political goals and aspirations but one has taken up arms and they were they are the one didn't isn't that the core distinction between combatants and civilians well the distinction is between those who as you say have taken up arms and are using t

of course it's not legitimate for rebels to use civilians to hide in and to use them as human shields that's also contrary to international humanitarian law. greece is set to receive a further two point five billion euro bailout from european lenders now that money should keep the country afloat until the next round of debt relief talks plans for the end of next year but in order to get this cash athens had to agree to thousands of public sector cuts and of course it's not the first time that greece has pressed on with the cuts demanded by its international creditors now the world financial crisis had caught the country with less than ten percent of its workforce unemployed but five years of biting austerity measures have devastated the jobs market now more than a quarter of the population is out of work and the latest finance ministry data shows that almost twenty three percent live below the poverty line now all that has forced people to seek better luck elsewhere and according to at least one report one hundred twenty thousand young scientists have left the country since two thousa

of course it's not legitimate for rebels to use civilians to hide in and to use them as human shields that was also contrary to international humanitarian law. greece is set to receive a further two point five billion euro bailout from european lenders keeping the country afloat until the next round of debt relief talks planned for the end of next year now in order to get the cash athens has to agree to thousands of public sector job cuts and. financial advisor george told us that belt tightening may be counterproductive. to this point where you know there needs to be a major shift in policy to address the issues of unemployment and the middle class suffering which is huge. some of. the banking sector has been saved the structural reforms which are needed for the general population to benefit from these measures have not taken place here that there are a multitude of reforms that need to be made especially in the public sector which are getting delayed continuously and i think this is the main problem that greece faces right now i think like cyprus which has had very similar deep prob

administration narrative that only fifty to sixty civilians have died over the years and this document is as damning to pakistan as it is to the u.s. that's because the country's government and its military have both privately supported these strikes and they knew about the high number of civilian casualties over the years now it isn't worth bringing up that anyone who is considered. military age is considered to be an enemy combatant whether or not they really are one arguably the civilian casualty rate could be much higher than this report indicates as a result of that now despite all of this the majority of the american public supports the use of drone strikes fifty six percent approve and only twenty six percent disapprove. let's head over to iraq now a country that is still dealing with the aftermath of a decade long war violence and bombings are still on occur on a near daily basis in that country a suicide bomber killed at least twenty five just today when it attacked an iraqi army convoy in the northern city of mosul and beyond the bloodshed a new generation of children are bei

situation in syria and the fate of civilians trapped between the fighting sides is up for debate with sir john holmes the u.k. chair for the international rescue committee and world apart is coming your way later today but here's a quick preview. most of the casualties we're talking about around one hundred thousand smoked of the casualties have been civilians and very many of them it's very hard to say how many have been killed by the government to solve fighting the war by shelling and bombing civilian towns but i don't want to oversimplify it but in legal terms complet combatants can be purposefully targeted and killed while the government has the responsibility and all the sides actually have responsibility to protect civilians as much as possible so why do we have all these leaders president obama prime minister cameron and others. calling rabble savelli and so i think that truly not only misrepresents the conflict but that actually undermines the already fragile security that could be afforded to civilians of course it's not legitimate for rebels to use civilians to hide in and

soldiers firing and killing civilians journalists and civilians from from high in the sky just gunning them down private manning saw that he wanted the rest of the world to see that the thing about that footage though is that it wasn't top secret this wasn't this wasn't something that was highly sensitive it actually had been out there a very successful journalist had found a copy of it himself and wrote about it in a book that was published around the world so the government you know chose to let manning off a little easy on that one but you know like we were saying it is still possible hundred thirty six years maximum sentence based off of the other convictions and what was bradley manning's reaction today. i spoke to someone actually who was sitting quite near him in the courtroom this afternoon and i spoke to her mediately after the verdict and i said what was brad like but what did bread do and she said that the moment that they read the not guilty verdict for aiding the enemy bradley and his civilian defense attorney david coombs both got a little smile across their face and when

had it wanted to target civilians, it would have killed many. it is my moral, religious and patriotic duty to defend my home and my country. if this is considered a crime, if defending my country is considered a crime, then i am this country's first criminal. >> (translated): i'll feel very sad if the country stays like this. it breaks my heart. before, i could travel late at night. syria was a very safe place. people envied our security. it breaks my heart. i wish syria could return to the way it was, the way we used to be. >> narrator: three days after the air strikes on al-bara, the regime jets returned. ahmad had tried to film the planes on his phone. >> (translated): i curse the father of assad and bashar the dog. >> (translated): i hoped to die and become a martyr, but god was satisfied with just shrapnel in my body, thank god. i can't move my legs. there's a dangerous injury in my head. shrapnel has gone in here, and they can't get it out. there's shrapnel in my chest, too. they can't get it out. my arm's been badly injured. i can't move