so senators heidi heitkamp, giffords is coming for you. in illinois another leader emerged.nn rejected the bill. >> there are serious flaws in this bill that jeopardize the public safety of the people of illinois. i've used my power under the constitution of our state to make important changes common sense changes to protect the safety of our people. >> michael: the governor's proposed changes are that a person may not carry more than one concealed gun, a person may not carry more than ten rounds of ammunition, and no concealed weapons in bars. believe it or not even those no-brainers remain controversial. joining us now with more on the gun debate is john rosenthal founder and chairman of the group "stop handgun violence." thanks for being with us, john. >> thank you for having me. >> michael: this conversation seems like it goes on and on, no more guns in bars. why is this controversial? >> i think that governor quinn's suggestion that people not care more than ten rounds makes a lot of sense as well. because in most cases there is no limit on the number of magazines or th

. >> but we also had a case in north dakota where we had the democrat there, heidi heitkamp, with only a 9% chance of winning also and she won, right? you're going to lose 10% of your 9-1 bets. you're supposed to over time. just like when they have the weather forecast they say there's only a 10% chance of rain you will get rained on 10% of the time. it will be annoying when that occurs and you're having your golf game or picnic but that's how probability works. if you read my book where it goes into covering. >> rose: "the signal and the noise" >> yes. it's skeptical in saying we have to be cautious about what we can forecast and can't. you can identify a past pattern that won't apply in the future if there's a paradigm shift. if the situation changes. >> rose: a for dime shift meaning would you not be able to pick up on that? >> it's hard to pick up on paradigm shifts. >> rose: give me last big one. >> i'm skeptical -- i think people always see paradigm shifts -- >> rose: i know, so let's look back. >> well, look at politics. people claim every reelection -- they say 2008 will be a r

i'm going to delay my questioning and turned to former attorney general now, senator heidi heitkamp from north dakota. senator heitkamp. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i have to tell you -- >> could you hold for just a second? i apologize. i have to ask these three perfunctory questions and then i will yield back. the first question is again this 10 question we ask of all nominees. you've been asked these questions before. in december. is anything you been aware of in your back into my present a conflict of interest with the duties of the office to which you have been nominated? >> no. >> okay. do you know of anything personal or otherwise that would anyway prevent you from fully and you from fully an honorable discharge in the response was on the office for which you been nominated? >> no make. >> do you agree without reservation to respond to any recent summons to appear to testify before any duly constituted committee of congress if you are confirmed speakers yes. >> thank you very much. senator heitkamp, you are recognized. >> thank you so much, mr. chairman and thank you for conducting