. - joining us now is kerry hannon, author of "what's next? n and find your dream job," a book about encore careers. kerry also writes the "great jobs for retirees" column on aarp.org and is a contributing editor to "forbes" magazine, where she writes a blog called "second verse." welcome. - nice to be here, lark. - all right, we heard jill angel say in that packet she had no business plan when she went to nashville. you don't recommend that. - no, absolutely not, but, you know, what jill did is she followed a passion of hers, and i think that trips a lot of people up because what you need to do-- the successful people who make a career change are people who have done things methodically, nothing rash, did their homework, so to speak. and i think jill jumped in a little quickly. - all right, but, obviously it worked for her, but that's just not the ideal way to do it, right? - yeah. you know, truly i think if you can-- now, in this economy, it's hard, but if you can build out your plan over a 3-year process and add those little pieces in so tha