fact is the unemployed rate clearly speaks to the fact we have accepted unfortunately a permanent lovellnt with 10 million at unemployment and another 10 billion at part-time so we have a country that has no problem giving $100 billion to afghanistan no problem to bill l. wall street and banks with the trillions of dollars in creating money out of dumping butter but america we tell them you are on a drone. i don't buy it and i object to what is happening. lou: the federal reserve right now is more than otherwise because of the fiscal policy in this country and whether a detroit or the broad economy refused to lead and the president has accepted 23 million people unemployed as the new normal i don't think that includes you or me or i would say most of the folks in this country. >> i seldom take issue with you but the fed exist to help the big debate don't exist to help anybody but we need a full employment economy we needed new daschle infrastructure program that means we need a new monetary policy instead of the fed creating money out of nothing to give it to the bank we would create the

even on a real-life lovell, what does it mean? >> -- even on a real-life olevel what does it mean? >> it is what we have now and i don't know when the chance will come around in the congress. so inot a political expert cannot predict that. i think there is an opportunity here. think it will get fixed but i don't know how long it will take. for the people waiting, it is terrible. people.on is a lot of >> besides the economic impact and the numbers and all the justification for doing it, the one piece that was brought up that is important is that this has to be a moral imperative. there are a lot of people out there who are suffering now, who are making a significant contribution and, at the same time, they are suffering and undergoing hardship and pain because they are not legal. thatr no other reason, should be a reason to do it. these are people that need the opportunity to represent themselves and need the opportunity to engage in a political process that helps shape their own future. they cannot be in this limbo living in fear and looking over their shoulder every day. it is wro

that it will have to pay out insurance claims emcees vice president for business development mike lovell told usa today on sunday that we've been writing school business for almost forty years one of the underwriting. guidelines we follow for schools is that any armed security should be provided by uniformed qualified law enforcement officers are guidelines have not recently changed so now that these so-called free market has decided that arming teachers is a bad idea well the n.r.a. and the gun manufacturers they represent follow its lead it's as cost and peterson chief executive for stone gate l.l.c. and editor of the libertarian republic dot com austin welcome back so. armed third grade teachers well you know only cops can have guns i mean you're more likely to get shot by a classroom you're more likely to get shot by a cop than a teacher thinks they are grads are in this country so let's talk about class when we talk about civil rights in the classroom the second amendment as a civil rights issue it's not if someone asks someone if someone has a civil right to eat at a lunch counter

impact of leaving the population in that position in the shadows even on a sort of just real-life lovell what does it mean? >> it's terrible. it's what we have now and i don't know when the chance is going to come around in the congress. i'm not a political expert, so i can't predict that. but i think there is an opportunity here and i think it will get fixed but i don't know how long it will take and for the people that are waiting, it's terrible to be hispanic besides the economic impact, there are the numbers and the justifications, the one thing that was also brought up that's important is there are a lot of people out there suffering right now making a significant contribution and that the team to be cassandra and suffering and hardship and came because they are not legal and that ought to be a reason to do it. these are people that need the opportunity to represent themselves and the opportunity to engage in a political process that helps shape their own future. they can't just be in limbo living in fear, looking over their shoulder every day. it's wrong. it's not consistent with w

his lovell wife, his three sons -- lovely wife, his three sons. but i want the members to take note that we have with us this evening a number of bill gray's former staff members. who are here and they're in the gallery and i would just ask that we appropriately cknowledge their presence. i'd like to yield two minutes great gentleman from the state of new york, congressman meeks. mr. meeks: i want to thank the gentleman for organizing the say thank you. first, thank you to god for sending us bill gray. thank you to god for having an individual who understands who he was. are we came from. and how he got here. and never forgetting about those least than he. bill gray knew what his purpose was in life. many individuals go through this thing that we call life and never find out what our purpose is. but all you have to do is to look at the works of bill gray and you know his purpose was to serve people. to serve people who needed a hand up. to serve people who sometimes were forgotten about. serve people to make sure their tomorrow was better than the