so yes, it has about $200,000 a year, and the national center on elder abuse has about $500,000 a year, and that's a pittance compared to other resource centers addressing other issues, and really not enough to do what people out there on the front lines and in various communities and families need. - we've been getting the overview, and as you know, it is such a personal issue affecting so many individuals, so we would like to play for you some excerpts from an orange county elder abuse support group and then to get your reaction. we're gonna hear from ruth. she's a woman in her seventies. she lives with her 52-year-old son, and she says she's been repeatedly abused by her son. let's take a look. - when it escalated, how did that happen? how did it escalate? - he was drinking. and i think when he drinks, sometimes, there's drugs involved, too, but i can't prove it. he came in and i was-- i was probably a little loud, too, because i was angry at him, and so he came at me. and he had a knife and said, "i can slice your throat." many other times, he's accused he's going to break my neck