evening, president hwang and fellow commissioners, i haven't been here in a long time, my name is barry toronto, and i appreciate that this ie stem is first off for discussion and it's a much needed discussion to have because the fact is that there has been a little bit of friction between the taxi staff and this body regarding how you meet out discipline on somebody who has blatantly violated the rules and regulations and laws of this city and three of you are relatively new to this process, i have a number of questions that should be asked before you decide, one, does the charter based upon amendment, alterations, the ballot box allow the sfmta to just throw out the baby with the bath water or throw out the entire bathtub full of water? i think you need to get a determination, the only problem is the attorney that works for the sfmta also works with mr. brian as well, so you have a little conflict there. the other issue is what happens if you don't approve this mou today, what happens, do we go back to the drawing board, when i first heard about