go long. >>> joining me on the phone, the police for cheshire. it when police showed up they found the house on fire and caught these suspects? because they were caught leaving the burning house. >> yeah. it worked out so officers arrived on-scene just as the suspects were leaving the residence. >> okay of the i don't know how far we should go back, but -- i'm a very detective-like person. i like to know details. and until i know the details around things, it's hard to figure things out. i would like to know why my sister and steven hayes weren't stopped at the bank. why she wasn't held at the bank. there were some police officers that, off the record, said to people in the town that they heard the girls screaming in the end. did they try to enter, did they not try to enter? and why weren't there policemen looking in the windows? my sister had no blinds on her windows. i just want the facts. and nobody has told us what really happened. >> and today, a state prosecutor said he'll seek the death penalty for komisarjevsky and hayes. today the state

he drives down to cheshire, and he and josh go to a bar.they start looking for this house that josh knows about from when they were shopping at stop&shop earlier. it has always been my opinion that he was attracted by the young girl michaela rather than the money or the mercedes. >> josh was born into a family with a history of mental problems and adopted by a family who had no ability to cope with mental problems, and so he was doomed by biology and then by fate. when josh was 3 years old, the family took into the home two foster children, a girl and a boy. and josh underwent really horrible and extensive sexual abuse at the hand of scott. i think that it started out playing a little sex games and having him pose naked and then proceeded to full-scale anal intercourse and to josh being burned with cigarettes. against the background of all of this, josh is in a church in which it is taught that there is evil in the world, and probably the greatest abomination of all is homosexuality, and so you have a 5-year-old, a 6-year-old, a 7-year-old

he drives down to cheshire, and he and josh go to a bar.nd then they start looking for this house that josh knows about from when they were shopping at stop&shop earlier. it has always been my opinion that he was attracted by the young girl michaela rather than the money or the mercedes. >> josh was born into a family with a history of mental problems and adopted by a family who had no ability to cope with mental problems, and so he was doomed by biology and then by fate. when josh was 3 years old, the family took into the home two foster children, a girl and a boy. and josh underwent really horrible and extensive sexual abuse at the hand of scott. i think that it started out playing a little sex games and having him pose naked and then proceeded to full-scale anal intercourse and to josh being burned with cigarettes. against the background of all of this, josh is in a church in which it is taught that there is evil in the world, and probably the greatest abomination of all is homosexuality, and so you have a 5-year-old, a 6-year-old, a 7-y

if there's a death penalty case out there, i think of what went on in cheshire, connecticut, and i think of this. >> to your point, john, a lot of people were watching this today. first of all, it was an extraordinary setting. we were able to hear ariel castro for such a lengthy period of time even challenging the judge but you have folks who wonder why didn't he face the death penalty and also others who say he seems to be mentally ill but the judge pointed out he knew right from wrong. he had a girlfriend at the time. he didn't do these things to her but he chose to do the things to the three other women and hide it. he had the ability to know what he was doing was horrific. >> i also think if there really was evidence of psychological disorder, defense lawyers would have i'm certain explored this in depth before they, in fact, entered into a plea because that would have been part of their effort at mitigation. it clearly was not there. he was more narcissistic in terms of personality than not. i frankly thought that what he said -- if i'm his defense lawyer, i would not have allowed h

council in columbia, missouri so we go to her swearing in when i was in high school and she had a cheshire cat smile because she was carrying a a brown grocery sack and she took the oath and after she took the oath, she opened the brown grocery sack, being the first woman elected, and took out first a vase of flowers and seven on her desk and then took out a tank -- a picture of us and took out an apron and tied it on. i was like,"oh, my god." all four of us children did not know her. she was that kind of flamboyant she grabbed life by the jugular and shook it and i have never met a stranger -- and i am sitting here because of her, no question in my mind. [applause] >> stephanie, that story speaks to the way women make decisions about running. if they don't have a role model, how difficult is it for you to convince a woman that she should run for office i don't think there is a woman in this country that does not have a role model now. >> they are either in their life directly where they are serving in the united states senate. i remember talking to a woman about running for congress and t

we go to her swearing in and she was very -- like a cheshire cat smile because she was carrying a big brown grocery sack with her. she took the oath and opened the brown grocery sack being the first woman elected. she took out first a vase of flowers and set them at her desk. she took out a picture of us and sat them on the desk and she took out an apron and tied it on. i was like, oh, my god. i'm so embarrassed. the children were like we don't know her, we have no idea who she is. she was that kind of flamboyant -- she grabbed life by the jugular and shook it and i never met a stranger and i am no question in my mind sitting here because of her. >> stephanie that story speaks to the way women make decisions about running. if they don't have a role model, how difficult is it for you to convince a woman that she should run for office? >> i don't think there's a woman in this country who doesn't have a role model now. may not be -- they're either in their life directly or they're serving in the united states senate. i remember talking to a woman who was thinking about running for congre

city council in columbia, herouri so we go to swearing in when i was in high school and she had a cheshire cat smile because she was carrying a a brown grocery sack and she took the oath and after she took the oath, she opened the brown grocery sack, being the first woman elected, and took out first a vase of flowers and seven on her desk and then a picture ofnk -- us and took out an apron and tied it on. i was like ,"oh, my god." all four of us children did not know her. she was that kind of flamboyant -- she grabbed life by the jugular and shook it and i have never met a stranger -- and i am sitting here because of her, no question in my mind. [applause] >> stephanie, that story speaks to the weight women make decisions about running. if they don't have a role model, how difficult is it for you to convince a woman that she should run for office i don't think there is a woman in this country that does not have a role model now. >> they are either in their life directly where they are serving in the united states senate. i remember talking to a woman about running for congress and this pro