>> from our perspective at the electronic frontier foundation

kpix 5's phil matier with nate from the electronic frontier foundation join us. is the nsa reading our email? >> yes. they are scanning every email as you type it. >> so as you type it they are scanning it? >> as soon as you send it, it goes through a splitter. there's a fiber optic slipper at the folsom street facility here in san francisco. one copy goes to whoever you're sending it to the other copy

>> from our perspective at the electronic frontier foundation yes, the fourth amendment says you have a right to be secure in your papers and effects. that includes your emails. >> reporter: but your email isn't the u.s. mail. it's owned by google or it's owned by facebook. it's owned by yahoo. do those people have -- is it up to them who they decide to turn it over to the government or a company or somebody that that's looking at it wants to look at it? >> it's not. federal law says that they have to keep that email private unless the government comes with a warrant. the nsa has not gotten warrants to read your email and yet they

foreign intelligence surveillance court ruling from two thousand and eleven after the electronic frontier foundation filed a freedom of information act request in the documents the court lambasted the national security agency for illegally collecting as many as fifty six thousand e-mails from innocent people each year over a three year period then the n.s.a. proceeded to misrepresent the size and scope of these collections to the fisa court for surveillance court chief judge john bates wrote in the october twentieth levin decision quote the court is troubled that the government's revelations regarding n.s.a.'s acquisition up. internet transactions marked the third instance in less than three years and which the government has disclosed a substantial misrepresentation regarding the scope of a major collection program so the n.s.a. secret is out and instead of reporters beating the n.s.a. cannot offer a story here in a story there president obama spilled all of the candy on the floor presumably so that we can get our sugar fix and then move on but is it really that simple well political commentator sa

of this information was w made public in response to a lawsuit filed by privacy group electronic frontier foundation. >> tomorrow marks two years since the district was hit by an earthquake and today the national cathedral will give an update to the landmark. lan they destroyed several areas of church and prompted the removal of damage stone work. they've been working to installi new scaffolding and reparg the stone. the -- repairing the stone. s the church was granted moneyrant through the national trust for historic preservation. a week of activity has started celebrating the 50th anniversary of the march on washington. >> those who april tended last night say it's -- those who attended last night say it's not a commemoration but a continuation of martin luther king's dream. ♪ >> music was always part of thee civil rights movement as were ministers who gave voice to the cries for equal justice. >> still concerned about voting rights and still concerned about all people wanting to come to this country to better themselves. >> it was mostly but not totally african-american. in the crowd jesse jackso

the process reorganization's including my own as well as privacy international and the electronic frontier foundation emerged as coordinator to help build awareness, secure signatories and push for adoption and implementation of these principles. to date the principles have 215 signatures from around the world including human rights organizations, legal department and universities and independent media groups. this includes 20 signatories and united states, the host of us here to say -- the electronic privacy information center and enternews. this is a society at seventh to proactively engage policymakers and other stakeholders in protecting the fundamental rights of all people. hy wants to talk about the principles involved. they bring nearly a year in development, included 15 society organizations and are drawn on the basis of 60 different constitutional framework. the outcome endorsed by 215 global signatories and 20 u.s. global signatories. the contents of the principles, there are 13, include legality, which is the idea that any limitation on the right to privacy must be prescribed by law. that

and the ruling that came out in 2011 after the electronic frontier foundation filed a request pretty recently. the court lambasted the nsa for illegally collecting as many as 56,000 e-mails from innocent people each year over three years. then the nsa proceeded to misrepresent the size and scope of that collection. john bates road the 2011 october decision said that the government's revelations regarding the acquisition of internet transactions marks the third instance in less than three years in which the government has disclosed a substantial misrepresentation regarding the scope of a major collection program. the secret is out. instead of reporters beating the piÑata, president obama spilled all the candy on the floor presumably so we will get our sugar fix and move on. is it really that simple? i first asked him how all of this could even be possible. >> that is kind of what the nsa figures are saying, but this centers on section 702 of the amendment, giving the nsa the authority to conduct this mass surveillance. they don't need individual war it's for each foreign target. they

kpix 5's phil matier with nate from the electronic frontier foundation join us.our email? >> yes. they are scanning every email as you type it. >> so as you type it they are scanning it? >> as soon as you send it, it goes through a splitter. there's a fiber optic slipper at the folsom street facility here in san francisco. one copy goes to whoever you're sending it to the other copy goes to the nsa. >> reporter: you're kidding. every email sent? >> since about 2002, yes. >> reporter: how do they have possibly the capacity to store all that stuff and even if they get it how do they figure out what to look at? >> they have the most powerful computers in the world. they are building the biggest data center in the world in utah. this thing is going to store something on the order of x exobites. it's an incredible amount of computers. >> reporter: your group was part of the release of the documents from nsa. >> the judge said that the n sa has been lying to the only court that meets in secret has been lying to that court for years and years and the court said it neede

our political insider phil matier sat down with nate car doe so from the electronic frontier foundationwe asked him if the nsa was still reading our emails right now. >> so it's our understanding that, yes, there is a computer looking for the keywords. however, if it finds the keywords and an actual person reads it, if it doesn't, they are storing it any way for up to five years. >> so big brother is watching. we'll have extended interview on the online privacy debate sunday on kpix 5 this morning starting at 7:30 a.m. we hope you join us for that. >>> and your weekend starts in about 16 minutes, sir. >> we're not counting down, are we? >> no. it's friday! >>> we are getting ready for the weekend. we have some changes coming our way for the weekend. today is going to be a nice day although low clouds and fog slow to break up outside. you can see it hanging out over the bay. you've got mostly clear skies, though, now in the valleys. we are going to see a whole lot of sunshine as we head in toward the afternoon. a cool 59 degrees in san francisco. 71 in livermore. 70 degrees in concord an

the electronic frontier foundation says it's illegal for intelligence agencies to monitor americans without a warrant. >> the government gets access first and then proves that you did something wrong second. it's not supposed to be that way. it's supposed to be the other way around. >> reporter: some say it's not a big deal. >> i'm not concerned if they look at me. if they do, that's fine. >> reporter: for those who don't want the government watching there is encryption that can protects you. >> when you have that little lock icon in your browser in the top right or left corner, there's no evidence that the nsa can break this encryption. >> reporter: sharon chin, kpix 5. >> mccull agh says they have the encryption but yahoo and aol don't. yesterday facebook announced it will. >>> president obama is examined to sign a bill to temporarily reduce interest rates on student loans. the house passed the measure to drop back to 3.9% for undergraduates. rates would then be tied to the financial markets. rising as the economy improves, there are limits on how high it can go. interest rates on new loa

route to the course of the convention there's going to be a panel discussion with the electronic frontier foundation and another with the american civil liberties union where they're going over what exactly is n.s.a. leaks mean you know it's not just civil liberties that are at risk there's all sorts of computer legislation many which are outdated that can provide a way for hackers to accidentally end up not necessarily on the radar of the federal government the just in jail in general alexander spoke yesterday he was actually booed he was jeered there were obscenity that were yelled in his direction he tried to defend a prison he tried to defend and the leaked documents attributed to mr snowden which have really blown the cover of the n.s.a. and explained exactly what many people have thought for decades now i've already spoken to a handful of people this morning at the convention who was one of the first things that they were mentioned was well you know we're here right now because of what the n.s.a. has been doing that we need to find ways to make sure that we can still communicate freely but you

addition to some of the court cases that are already ready being brought forward the electronic frontier foundation for example is going to be suing telecommunications providers which listeners viewers should know was tried years ago but the government gave them immunity and also said that you couldn't prove with the certainty that you were being monitored now we know that's different i think that public outrage is very important as we saw in the seventy's with the church committee it was public outrage that called for a comprehensive investigation into cointelpro and covert spying on americans i hope that we harness some of that same outrage now. and put pressure on companies and legislators to make the most transparent brought it seems like that outrage is growing and there is movement building on the hill but i'm worried that you have these reformers like rush holt and ron wyden who are pushing for strong reforms but then you also have people like senator dianne feinstein who are in mike rogers who are big proponents of these programs what sort of phony reforms might we see coming from that camp

route to the course of the convention there's going to be a panel discussion with the electronic frontier foundation and another with the american civil liberties union where they're going over what exactly is n.s.a. leaks mean this morning even if there was a presentation of the first one of the entire convention was about the federal laws that exist right now with regards to copyright because you know it's not just civil liberties that are at risk there's all sorts of computer legislation many which are outdated that provide a way for hackers to accidentally end up not necessarily on the radar of the federal government but just in jail it's one thing to have the n.s.a. spying on you but a lot of things that seem seemingly legal actually aren't and that's why a lot of people come here to learn more about how to be involved in this trade without risking a a lengthy jail sentence or ending up on the bad side of the law and under i understand that the hackers were not alone at this conference the head of the national security agency keith alexander made an appearance in vegas to talk about what he doe

three core organizations -- including my own as well as privacy international and the electronic frontier foundation -- emerged as coordinators to help build awareness, secure signatories and push for the adoption and implementation of these principles in practice. to date, the principles have more than 215 signatures from around the world including human rights organizations, legal departments of universities and independent media groups. this includes 20 signatories from the united states as well as itp, the host of us here this evening, as well as free press, the electronic privacy information center and internews. this is very much civil society's effort to proactively engage with policymakers and other stakeholders in protecting the fundamental rights of all people. so i wanted to talk a little bit about the principles themselves. as i mentioned, they were nearly a year in development. they included four -- excuse me, 15 core civil society organizations and are drawn on the basis of more than 60 different constitutional frameworks. the outcome, the 13 principles, have been endorsed by the 215 g

the usual way you try to undo it is you have some sort of advocacy group like the electronic frontier foundation, and they have lawyers the golan and argue a cover and officials and try to the slight kendis to match regulation. so here i am looking at a bunch of corporate programmers with huge computers and connectivity coming upon a scheme said unlocking a government bureaucrat strange, but prohibitions. i do not see a fair fight. another example is regulators trying to control high frequency traders. the way high-frequency trading out rhythms go, if you try to slow the frequency of them are put caps on them are something like that, they just adapt and use that as part of the little system that there optimizing against him. so what can possibly be done? you can't use a prohibition wrote -- regime. you can have some effect. facades and -- is part of the solution, such traditionally one of the ways that the people constrains the government or for that matter the other powers, churches, and corporations is that it costs money to do things fess. the comptroller taxes creates a constraint. no taxati

the usual way you try to undo it is you have some sort of advocacy group like the electronic frontier foundation, and they have lawyers the golan and argue a cover and officials and try to the slight kendis to match regulation. so here i am looking at a bunch of corporate programmers with huge computers and connectivity coming upon a scheme said unlocking a government bureaucrat strange, but prohibitions. i do not see a fair fight. another example is regulators trying to control high frequency traders. the way high-frequency trading out rhythms go, if you try to slow the frequency of them are put caps on them are something like that, they just adapt and use that as part of the little system that there optimizing against him. so what can possibly be done? you can't use a prohibition wrote -- regime. you can have some effect. facades and -- is part of the solution, such traditionally one of the ways that the people constrains the government or for that matter the other powers, churches, and corporations is that it costs money to do things fess. the comptroller taxes creates a constraint. no taxati