we had mike olman lead a very successful turn around in this company.ly, a bad period in all retail in the late '90s as we had in all of our markets and things weren't looking so, but he's done a great turn around as ceo and then, of course, the financial crisis hit. then he brought it back. however, the board, you know, i think shove encouraged mike to stay on longer. they shoved a much more thoughtful succession here. if you talk to anybody below the surface at apple or frankly you talk to any am board member who is running the apple stores, who created the concept. who turned the table over? the genius, it was all steve jobs. they wrongly brought in ron johnson and your boy bill ackman is the guy responsible for tanking this process. >> my boy, i was slamming him off just as much as anybody else. >> they are taking on his case, brian. >> somebody had to take the other side, that's what it's all about. >> not really, sometimes you have right an wrong, truth is not always the middle course. sometimes somebody is wrong. ackman is wrong. >> we have other