cannot cut me off until i asked mr. goure a question. insist we have this bloated defense department -- mr. wheeler is correct. we have defense-related stuff tucked away in practically every department. in the nukes tucked kennedy department. our veterans department is because of our wars -- we have nukes tucked away in the energy department. why don't you go to your plutocratic friends and ask them to pay for it so that we can have a balanced budget? guest: can i respond to that before dan does? i appreciate what the caller said about the work i do. i have to object to the ad of his comments about mr. goure. that kind of discourse has taken us to a low state in washington. i agree with dan. he works for an organization that i would not work for and that would not have me. but i think we should keep the discourse at a little higher level. the defense budget may be misallocated. federal spending. if you want to take on bloat, go after health care. go after the underfunded liabilities in state pensions or federal pensions. go after states t