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obama administration is giving very, very wide notice, in facts an attack is coming in my view. >> steve clemons. washington editor at large for the "atlantic" magazine and somebody who is well connected and very candid. steve, thank you for being with us. >> thank you, rachel. >>> it is remarkable, hearing what steve said there about how the overall strategic idea here is is about reestablishing that international norm, that international allergy on weapons of mass destruction. while the u.n. weapons inspectors are there in that country that we would act before we have actually heard from them what they found. is very conflicting direction as far as i'm concerned in terms of what the point of this is. if the idea is we're supposed to reestablish international norms and an international regime against this sort of thing, while the tip of the sphere there is the weapons inspectors. why wouldn't we wait for them? >>> all right. lots ahead. stay with. have i got a treat fo. new clean whipped creme. clean fresh foundation, a dash of hydration, whipped to smooth matte perfection. what a treat! new cl

for more on this crisis, i'm joined by steve clemon, the washington editor at large for the atlantic, also founder of the american strategy program at the new america foundation. richard was just getting to sort of the central debate going on in the situation room right now, in the pentagon, which is what does the action look like. there's no doubt there's going to be action, but how intense is it and is it going to be a game changer? >> i think it's a limited action. that in the eyes of the world will look like a compelling punishment of those that were responsible or involved with the deployment of chemical weapons. it will not give those who want to see a tipping point blow to the opposition what they want because the white house i think, and i support this, is going out of its way to make sure we distinguish between the chemical weapons violating between the international norm and separating that from syria. that's what they should have done the first time they reacted. where they basically said we're going to give arms and support to the opposition. and the white house for a time

to talk about that is steve clemon, washington editor at large, for "the atlantic" and also founder of the american strategy program at the new america foundation. steve, what i want to know, as someone coming to this is, are we making the right move, from your expert opinion, are we making the right move in staying on the sidelines -- john kerry called it deplorable. the united states hasn't gone further than that. is that the right move? >> no. from the moment that morsi was removed from office, the united states should have suspended aid or suspended a significant portion of the aid. we did cancel some fighters. but that wasn't enough. they should have sent a stronger signal. not necessarily because of concerns about democracy but largely more broadly about what signal it sends to a very important group of young players in egyptian politics. who are adherents to political islam. who decided rather than take a violent course to go through the machinery of getting elected. if you remove that from them -- i asked condoleezza rice about this. if you remove that from them, you run the ri

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. >> ambassador nicholas burns and steve clemons, i appreciate your time, thank you. >>> right now a crew of experts from the national transportation safety board is in birmingham, alabama, examining the wreckage from a ups cargo plane. it crashed. it killed the pilot and co-pilot. the plane crashed into a ball of fire on this field. it happened in its approach to birmingham's airport this morning. the mayor of that city said the pilots sent no distress signal before the crash. >>> and in other news making headlines today, in louisiana a hostage standoff turned deadly overnight. around noon yesterday a man took three employees hostage at the tensas state branch in saint joseph. releasing one nine hours later. after midnight the suspect shot the remaining two hostages. police returned gunfire killing the suspect. one of the two hostages wounded in the standoff we have learned has died. >>> and in california, someone claiming to be hannah anderson, the 16-year-old kidnapped survivor, is speaking out on social media websites about her ordeal. posts from the website details her abduction