you have to play out, acai supl, with the russians. >> now you have to play this game with lavrov, never lose site of the depriving him of chemical weapons but be ready to see itdom a demand (inaudible) because it will become a joke >>. >> rose: it xwnt too limitd? you believe it can be an action that would leave anymore power? >> no, i see that the long term objective even if not publicized it should be -- it cannot be made the legitimate sfpl phenomenon a country of 206 million. it's impossible. >> rose: it's easy to say but the question that always comes is up what comes after assad. >> i'm not trying to -- noble he cannot be in power because it means there is no world order. the price that we play with iran and other dictators is unbearable. putin togethering with the russians always be ready to follow on and to change his behavior. i don't think we have to talk so much. you have to talk less but behind closed doors to talk very direct with the russians. very direct with others like the iranians and they see an opportunity to correct what happened in iran. this whole debate about con