so you had tactical differences but no big philosophical fferences. suddenly, i was in a situation where, you know, there was such a diversity of opinion, and one of the things i learned is that if you just talk to people all the time who agree with you, right, you know, you feel good with yourself, you feel maybe you can delude yourself, you're winning, but activism is about, in my judgment, if you believe in the political correctness of what you are trying to do, you must believe that you can go into any forum, however conservative it might be, however backward in their thinking that it might be, if they are talking and making and influencing decisions that affect the future of our planet i feel i should go. so now, i'll be honest with you. it's not the favorite place in the world. you know, before i went to greenpeace, i went as human rights, gender equality and that time i could never get a single business ceo to agree for a sit-down meeting, right? in fact, i used to, like, have to follow them in the corridors, ananthe best lobbying i did was usu