i interviewed a number of people he has collaborated with over the years, gorbachev, kofi aman. >> tell us about the environment -- environmentalists that influenced you as mentors, as friends, people you worked with and people you looked up to. the environmentalists that meant something to you in your life that you have worked -- like -- others. >> jack and jane good al, i think, she's a fancy young lady. those are two that -- obviously [inaudible] katherine's son is very, very leadership position in this area. >> there's a story you have told me. it was about you going down the amazon, and i think things were looking desolate in the environmental world, and he shared a conversation with you. do you remember that? >> sure. tell me the story. >> i was a little discouraged, and back when reagan was president. [laughter] he had just called russia the evil empire, and that's not the way you get -- it's not the way you make friends. i'm -- i'm having a hard time keeping from getting discouraged, you know, to getting rid of nuclear weapons and having peace in the world. and they said, ted, e

in many ways, how gorbachev was when you saw communism in the ussr and they overexpanded.e were at their wits end and you may have that here. >> maria, the presidents, both of them are going to be at the united nations this week. is it wise for president obama to have a direct face-to-face meeting? how would that go over with the american public? >> there's a possibility for them to sit down and talk. how formal will it be? we'll see. but, it's going to be interesting to see how it does play out here, martin, because the american people do have, i think, a deep psychological impact of their image of iran. i'm one of those z. look, i grew up in elementary school, catholic school and we prayed every morning for the release of the hostages. but, what has changed is we have a war wary nation. we are much more also of a global community and it's been clear for some time now that the american people don't want the united states to be the world's policeman. i think all those put together go to we really do need to figure out whether this dmom si is going to work. one other thing

. >> laura: i think the ronald reagan with gorbachev. i was still work telling white house as a young little speech writer back then. coming out of that meeting with gorbachev and reagan was steely and back strong. he walked out. people didn't know what happened. it turns out he wasn't going to agree to these concessions that all the aelites in washington. it sended up better off for the united states. >> yes, reagan was a real leader. somebody who projected strong american global leadership. barack obama is exactly the opposite, actually. he just projects shear weakness, dithering, indecisiveness. he is by all accounts like a french leader really. and i think. >> laura: that's why they are getting along so well. >> that's why he gets awell so well with france president. >> laura: good to he sue. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. charges that john kerry isn't telling the full story. we'll investigate. later, why are liberals rejecting president obama's argument to strike aurora lawyer in the factor follow-up segme

the reality was gorbachev said this is how i'm going to dismandle the apparatus of the soviet union. in iran you have talks of we're going to dismantile the nuclear bo bomb, but every time we come up with a condition, they say we will discuss it in geneva. they are trying to gain time. >> benjamin netanyahu will lay out his case to the world, a different case than what we've heard this past week. walid farris, thank you so much for your insight. >> thank you, sir. >> not only the potential for a government shutdown this week. we're talking about millions of americans will be required to sign up for health insurance under obama care. will the new online marketplaces, the so-called exchanges, be up and running in time? the president says they have to be so what you need to know before tuesday. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition inharge™. >>> well, tick tock, countdo

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nixon order certainly reagan or gorbachev -- that is in the last case.hose guys put aside their differences and they got some real understanding taken care of that made them fast friends, enough to make a democracy movement that brought the soviet union to an end and the berlin wall down. but that was then and this is now. it is not now. bill collins says he wishes it was the case now. >> it certainly is not very look look at where these two guys are coming from. vladimir putin deals of his country in a rather cold manner. as you know from past experiences, if he doesn't like you, people disappear and go to jail. he is dealing with our president was a community organizer, at best, were not even sure how great of a community organizer uis. he doesn't have any reason whatsoever to talk to obama about anything. neil: welcome he wasn't so great on immigration crackdown, so he's not exactly that. but having said that come i'm wondering where this goes for the two big leaders of the two big powers who don't talk to each other. they clearly don't like each othe

he could be the next gorbachev. >> are you talking rodman? >> rodman, yes. >> i think rodman absolutely does believe that he is there saving the world. as proof he says he wants to get former pro ballers like scottie pippen to play on the u.s. team against the north korean team. this is typical of crazy people, but crazy people never realize that other people aren't as crazy as them. in his mind he is like, oh yeah, i go to north korea so they kill come here too. he has no clue that what he is doing is completely and utterly wrong. >> he thinks this is the next level of ping-pong diplomacy which is absurd. joy bill, rodman -- >> bill, rodman, and bear with me on this one because it is long. rodman said the one thing that president obama and kim jong-un agree on. you should be buried alive with just your head sticking out of the ground and a bunch of poisonous vipers should be released while people watch and laugh as they rip your skin off with the little teeth. >> in hindsight i wish i would have interrupted that. i thought it would end posit

i remember going to moscow with president reagan when he was going to meet with mikhail gorbachev. suddenly the evil empire was no more and he knew that they laughed and cried and they were human. when we got back to washington i said mr. president, do you think maybe if you had gone to moscow ten years ago, 20 years ago he might have found out the russians laughing and crying and they are human? nope, said the change. [laughter] george bush 41, george bush won best known for the persian gulf war victory the expertise in foreign affairs but when it came to the domestic policies they couldn't read his lips he used to invite my younger colleagues to go jogging with him. better him than me. i got invited to the dedication. [laughter] well, in comparison to his son, the sitting president, he could be called a moderate republican. bill clinton his heart was in the right place but he made terrible mistakes with his liaison tarnishing the white house, i'm sorry, tarnishing the oval office. but he did balance the budget and he did bring on prosperity and he did create a surplus which has b

. >> a blast from the past on decision to take it to congress, former president mikhail gorbachev. >> now they are criticizing the president of the united states for not being decisive. if he's not decisive enough on shooting and bombing i think it's a good kind of decisiveness. >> being aplaysingly, the pew poll shows that 25% only support the president's action he,. >> it plays well for him but there's a critically important problem here is that the united states manufactured evidence to invade iraq over ten years ago. and today we're set yet again to attack yet another country in the middle east on very, very questionable evidence. so of course there's an opening for russia to jump in and to rub our face in it. of course there is, why wouldn't they do that? any power of any minimal self respect would do so, evil for doing it doesn't make sense. countries don't have permanent allies and permanent foes. they have permanent interests. we should pursue them as permanently and doggedly as putin is pursuing them from russia. >> bottom line is there no way that russia can afford to lose t

gore chef, tear -- gorbachev, tear down the wall. russia went through decades on their heels. their economy struggled, military starved. in the dog house. enter putin who brings them back. meanwhile, we get president obama who puts us in a redistribution economy and you have one economy growing, one people getting stronger and the other one doing the opposite. leadership, i should just stop because the picture says 1,000 words. here is -- watch. which one? which one do you want leading your country? >> i'm going with the bike. [ laughter ] >> you like the shirtless guy. >> holding the rifle. which one is more -- what's the pretend photo? >> greg lost his shirt and he'll be wandering in the wilderness in case you're interested. oh, my goodness. all right. so dana. let's talk about this. this is a cause of concern for many americans because they're worried about how we are looking in the world. are people worried about our president taking some action? no. are they going to say listen, the guy who is making moves, that's determining the course of events here and in the middle ea

then gorbachev. he went right to him to negotiate. what is the united states doing stiffing the president of russia, not having meetings with him? it makes us look petty. in the last week, vladimir putin looked like a statesman. >> the irony. getting back to my question that former head of the kgb and what the kbg did for decades is now lecturing our president via the "new york times" to the american people on issues of peace and diplomacy. and to a president who ran on an anti-war platform is extraordinary turn of events. >> which of the two, greta, is right now threatening a war that the american people don't want. that the american military doesn't want. that the congress of the united states doesn't want. that the world community doesn't want. the ones threatening the world right now are john kerry and barack obama who says we'll have a big strike where john kerry says it will be unbelievably small. they are the ones to whom putin is addressing this. it is better in our relationship with russia that we have the russians writing op

gorbachev, tear down that wall. that signaled the end of the cold war. russia went through years, decades, on their heels, high unemployment, their economy struggled, their military starved, they're, you know, in the doghouse. enter vladimir putin, who brings them back, meanwhile we get president obama, who puts us in a with usification redistribution economy, and one economy growing, one people's getting stronger and the other one doing the opposite. leadership, i should just stop, because a picture says a thousand words. here's -- >> oh, my goodness. >> which one? which one do you want leading your country? >> i'm going with the bike. i'm going to go with the bike. >> you like the shirtless guy? >> you like the shirtless guy in the woods? >> holding the rifle. i mean which one is more -- which one would you -- >> you're like the -- >> you like the made-up photo. you like the pretend photo. >> greg is going to be wandering in the wilderness, in case you're interested. oh, my goodness. all right so dana, first talk about this. if this is a concern for ma

my old boss, reagan, quoted the russian pro pro prove verb to gorbachev and said, trust but verify. any kind of a deal the united states reaches, ore even contemplates reaching, has to have a verification process written into it. there are over a thousand tons of chemical weapons in syria, probably over 50 different places, some in the mid ol' of war zone so have the notion there will u.n. weapons inspectors -- these are think tank people. they're not soldiers. they're not going to be able to shoot their way in and find chemical weapons sites. so the one missing equation, how do you verify? i don't think anybody verifies without somebody's boots on the grounds. >> neil: meantime, we have a russian who only days ago said there were no chemical weapons in syria, offering to stockpile them and watch them. syria now that seems to be saying, yeah, you caught us, we do have weapons weapons and we'd them over. i think everyone is lying. >> i think you're probably right. expects e that's why trust but verify is important. the interesting twist in the last couple of hours is now it appears t

relationship that could develop in the very positive light hopefully, similar, if you will, to the reagan-gorbachevelationship. >> everybody needs to tamp down their expectations a little bit. what would be considered a success today? >> to be quite honest, this might seem like i'm trying to throw cold water on it, but i'm not. in diplomacy, small steps are important. if we have a meeting that comes out this week that john as herry is at, that is progress. it might seem small and baby steps to many of your listeners, but in diplomacy, that would be a sense of achievement, a very positive step forward in diplomatic circles. >> is there anything that could make this go completely off the rail? >> where should i begin? as a start, many of your american viewers will notice there are for example, the small case of the american pastor being held in iran, has been for a year now. i know the administration would very much like to get him released, there's a small matter of the netanyahu government in israel who have high suspicions about america sitting down and talking directly with iran because of the nu

it's kind of like reagan talking to gorbachev. a basic phone call may open up a direct dialogue.ep barack obama talking and others in our government talking, that gives them more time to get nuclear weapons. once you get them, you don't have to talk to anybody ever again in theory. that's their overall goal. the other issue is barack obama, after syria, the world does not fear him under the leadership of what he's going to do. because he said here is my red line. and it didn't happen. then we go, we punt to russia, the biggest ally for syria? and now they're in charge? that makes us look incredibly weak. >> co-panelists think it's a bad move to actually destroy the chemical weapons of syria. >> can i ask you all to add -- >> the chemical weapons in syria, it's not a great move to erode the credibility of the united states. that's my concern here. >> how we got there is a process of not assembling an aggressive resolution and obama's failure to sell it in the house. it had 15 votes. >> figure israel into this mix. it, of course, has always said before they acquire nuclear weapon,

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just before the gux war in 1991, we remember gorbachev being friendly to the u.s. do his own diplomacy which may have been the soviets trying to do their own deal. in retrospect it looks different. the cuban missile crisis, john kennedy proposes to a diplomat in new york that the u.n. be approached with a deal where openly we would trade giving up missiles in turkey for the soviets taking missiles out of cuba as it turned out that was a secret deal but willing to do that in public. that's the kind of thing that really does take a while to really understand. >> michael beschloss, thank you very much. you've proved that you do know pretty much everything. >> i do try. >> state ahead, what the military makes of this from two different perspectives and we'll spin through the other stories making headlines today in the news cycle. in the market for a new phone? iphone. "the cycle is coming at you. ♪ ho ho ho [ female announcer ] at 100 calories, not all food choices add up. some are giant. some not so giant. when managing your weight, bigger is always better. ♪ ho ho ho

this is his reagan gorbachev moment.e to resolve this conflict, he will have transformed global politics. in a way that reagan did it. because this is the cold war we're now, in iran and the u.s. >> we have to break here. we'll have more from the panel when we come back. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for business. one bucket of data for everyone on the plan, unlimited talk and text on smart phones. now, everyone's in the spirit of sharing. hey, can i borrow your boat this weekend? no. [ male announcer ] share more. save more. at&t mobile share for business. ♪ at&♪ hooking up the countryess. whelping business run ♪ ♪ trains! they haul everything, safely and on time. ♪ tracks! they connect the factories built along the lines. and that

you look at iran and you look at this new leader and it's like reagan when he talked to gorbachev.ment talking, that gives them more time to get nuclear weapons. once you get them, you don't have to talk to anybody ever again in theory. that's their overall goal. the other issue is barack obama after syria, the world does not fear him under the leadership of what he's going to do. he said here's my red line. it didn't happen. then we go and we punt to russia. the biggest ally for syria makes us look weak. >> it's really a bad move to actually destroy the chemical weapons in syria. >> can i ask you all -- >> it's not a great move to erode the credibility of the united states. that's my concern here. >> how we got there and process of not assembling a congressional resolution and obama's inability to sell it. 15 votes in the house for forced resolution. >> in the last minute and a half we've got, i want you to figure israel into this mix. it's always said before they acquire nuclear weapons we'll destroy them. they want the u.s. as a partner it not in the lead. what does a blossoming

>> i go back to what reagan said about gorbachev in 1985.y trust but verify but i say test, test the resolve and what is the alternative? what is the alternative to diplomacy? war with iran would be apocalypse now in the middle east and would endanger the very interest we are trying to resolve through political settlement. iran will be an ally in trying to resolve syria, too. >> rreihan, we have to have you back. hillary clinton is introducing the president. of course, we'll have you on again soon. here is former secretary of state hillary clinton. >> they're both left-handed. they both love golf, a game that does not often reciprocate the love they put into it. they both are fanatic sports fans and go to great lengths to be in front of the tv or on the side of the court or the field. they both are master politicians, each of

this is his reagan gorbachev moment.esolve this conflict, he will have transformed global politics. in a way that reagan did it. because this is the cold war we're now, in iran and the u.s. >> we have to break here. we'll have more from the panel when we come back. [ sneezes, coughs ] i've got a big date, but my sinuses are acting up. it's time for advil cold and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is that won't relieve all your symptoms. new alka seltzer plus-d relieves more sinus symptoms than any other behind the counter liquid gel. oh, what a relief it is. than any other behind the counter liquid gel. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. mmmhmmm...everybody knows that. well, did you know that old macdonald was a really bad speller? your word is...cow. cow. cow. c...o...w... ...e...i...e...i...o. [buzzer] dangnabbit. geico. fifteen minutes could save you...well, you know. ♪ [ male announcer ] 1.21 gigawatts. today, that's easy. ge is revolutionizing power. supercharging turbines with advanced hardware

manner that america had always manipulated in the past and was expected to, i just point to the gorbachev-reagan summits as one example. then boy, i should just put -- i want to put a rat down your shirt and everyone else who believes that. the russian -- at the arbakov institute, u.s. and canada institute which you're familiar with run by the late george a rbakov, where this letter came from, something they said in the early 1980's, and in the 1970's when i was in herimans and russians laugh and say americans never get it. >> that was then and this is now. >> russians play chess and americans play a game of football. >> what makes you think the americans aren't playing a game of chess? everyone is trying to gain advantage. obama in the first instance is probably breathing a sigh of relief that now he has an exit strategy from the red line. and -- and the americans are still holding out the threat of military -- >> american -- >> a lot of people say is the only thing that gets everybody -- >> american exceptionalism does not seek exit strategies. american skecksalism if we are to -- if you are a

he was on a list of speakers at this conference that included gorbachev, larry summers. mean, huge -- and pope francis, i think. >> and then -- >> andrew ross sorkin and i looked at it. >> i'm going to a conference in nantucket tomorrow. >> but you're not just covering it. you are one of the visionary thought leaders that people are going to be hanging on every word. >> i don't know about that part, but we'll be on the air tomorrow from nantucket. >> with bob dimon. >> apparently gorbachev is not coming any more because he is having spinal surgery. >> he didn't want to be upped by andrew ross sorkin. he's having what? >> apparently he's having spinal surgery. we're going to be upstaged now by a friend of the show. let's talk about betting big on bit coins. i don't know what to make of bit coins. the online marketplace buys and sells liquid assets is launching its newly minted investment fund. joining us on the set is the founder and ceo. we haven't seen you in a while. >> it's been a few months. >> yeah. facebook is over. groupon is over. all of -- everybody else that ha

gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> reporter: some see putin's slap at president obama as pining for thee united states. you know, i could hear reagan turning over in his grave as this was going on. >> one of putin's most in your face lines referenced obama's allusion this week to american exceptionalism. >> that's what makes america different. that's what makes us exceptional. >> it is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation, wrote putin. the president's spokesman took that on in thinly veiled diplospeak. >> unlike russia, the united states stands up for human rights in our own country and around the world and we believe that our global security is advanced when children cannot be gassed to death by a dictator. >> reporter: putin blamed gassing syrians on rebel forces, not bashar al assad's government, as obama officials insist. >> only in russia and in putin's parallel alternate universe could you believe that. >> but wait a minute. putin is the guy the u.s. is now banking on to negotiate a way out of unpopular military action a

that includes gorbachev, yeltsin. we are primarily the world's aggressors. i think barack obama should do what the democrats want and that is stay out of war. host: jack, a republican caller. hi, jack. caller: i backed the president of the united states all day, every day. the million-dollar question might be, why does russia want chemical weapons all of the sudden. gamey be a dangerous chess when we start moving chemical weapons around. we should look at it a little more closely. we should back our president no matter what he does. king in news bill jersey. he writes, the most important part is the last paragraph when he writes about american exceptionalism. it's something that many on the right have perverted in two american arrogance. it is one of the reasons much of the world cannot stand us. person writes, i cannot find one thing i disagree with in mr. putin's message to americans. writes, potus is so weak he grabs for putin's all for like a johnny man grabs for a lifeline. todayir putin writes in grabs for putin like a drowning man grabs for a lifeline

handled arms control with reagan in the '80s and first time i came to geneva was for that first gorbachevt starts slowly but things happen. if it's going to work you'll begin to see in the next -- you'll see some signals in the body language and see in the next weeks and months they are getting down to serious negotiating. >> andrea mitchell in geneva, thank you so much. >> so we have eight points in the alabama and a&m game. how many days do you give putin and assad before this whole thing blows up? it's not a question of when it's going to blow up, it's when it's going to blow up. >> no doubt. the whole premise of this is preposterous. the only question is how long it will take our policymakers to figure that out. >> how far is the president going to bend on this? >> it's just going to go on and on and do this and come back. it's a situation we'll live with for the foreseeable future. they will agree to something and then fall off and then do something else. look, i love andrea and she's optimistic. god love her, i hope she's right. i'm a little more pessimistic. >> speaking of pessimis

to moscow carrying a letter from president regan saying he wants to meet with new soviet leader gorbachevwithout any comment they said the leader of the delegation was the speaker of the house tip o'neill. can you imagine today boehner representing president obama in dealing with putin? it's how things have changed, the civility, the normal sharing of government by two parties is not the way it works. >> obama did call senator mccain and lindsey graham down to the white house when he wanted help and borne was willing to suspend the rule. >> i hope that's where the grown ups get together. >> borne did what he did yesterday. >> the most popular picture, the one thing people like not the debates, it's your guy, chris christie walking on the beach with the president of the united states of different parties. you ask anybody who is reasonable they will say that's what they think american government should be when it comes to a crisis or a disaster we work together. >> we'll read more about this in your book october 1st. >> good timing. it is. see you tonight at 7:00 p.m. chuck see you on the d

gorbachev, tear down this wall to mr. putin, whatever you think is best.go to congress if he believed it was in the national security of the country. >> if he hit assad moodily, i agree. once we find the hot blood cool it was incumbent on us to bring in the rest of the world. why? this is a crime against humanity, not specifically the united states. >> no one is with military action in syria by the united states. even france said let's wait. >> i want to give you a flashback to the couch. >> happening now. is it victims' mom and dad spoke. what are your problems. >> they died in a fashion. they don't have the decency to sit and listen to what they have to say. if a republican had done anything similar to that uh they would be destroyed all over our friends in the other cable channels and the elite media in new york and washington. that was appalling and tells you a lot. >> i cannot disagree. you cannot walk out on the mother, the grieving parents of falling service members or a person serving the united states of america. the greater frustration is that's

. >> this nantucket conference attracting the likes of larry summers, andrew ross sorkin, gorbachev, pope francis. >> not pope francis. >> i swear it started out with gore bachev and i'm andrew ross sorkin. i'm like, is there another -- >> it was a mistake. >> no. >> it was a mistake. but no, there's a lot of interesting people here. we talked to meredith whitney. and, of course, that is by the way the discussion here. and most people feel a little bit around about this extortion thing. but i will say one thing to point out, $20 billion, that's actually what jpmorgan has spent on legal fines between 2010 and 2012. >> 20 million? >> $20 billion in total. if this $11 billion minimum goes through, it will be $20 billion in total. while there's a lot ooh people here who are thinks friends and his supporters, a lot of people say at some point if you're the board, this gets very complicated. and perhaps the reason he still has his job is the fact that there isn't anybody waiting in the wings. >> the classic thing is, the government, which was so worried about the whale somehow hurting depo