getaway from a very what had become a materiallistic. but i do want to get to the role women play in this. and why a day after giving this -- >> incredible -- incredible interview does he not go back and say anything nasty about gays or homsexuals but he says and again, obviously abortion more of a women's issue than a man's issue. is it because he has less when he is trying to make the church opening and welcoming, does that mean -- >> that is the moral teaching of the church is defending the sanctity of life. a woman sent him a letter i think she was in south america saying this man who i had sex with i'm pregnant. he wants me to get an abortion what do i do? the pope picked up the phone and called this woman and said you have this don't abort this child. have the child. this is a beautiful gift from god. it is that touching personal touch to people and it is about he is not going to change his positions the church's teachings on abortion. it's clear >> well, he is going to be interesting and time will tell because i think the dialogue