. >> you may have riled michael duran. i want to talk about what may be the more difficult scenario. both houses of congress in their own separate ways, both down to the idea of the strike. if they've of vote yes, what does the president do with that new permission, does he just pocket this until a future date, or you would support the strike? or has he essential committed himself by asking to their -- for their permission? >> let me start by saying something that is very obvious but that we should think about for a second. i agreed with almost everything the per -- that jeremy said. what i want to say that is very obvious is we have a resident who, for two years, showed not just a reluctance, basically informed the american public, that intervention in syria is pure folly. nobody can argue that president obama has been looking for a pretext to get involved. opinionfactor, public is overwhelmingly opposed to this. this is also obvious. the third factor is that the military doesn't want to do this. i have never seen body la

i bring in david gergen and michael duran. we know the president obama was willing to meet with president rouhani today. president rouhani said there wasn't time to set up the meetinging. did that make sense to you? >> there was a lot of hype that there would be a formal meeting. the white house said and indicate the if somewhere on the sidelines there was going to be a handshake or hello or as i put it an ice breaker they were up for it and willing to do it. i'd asked the iranian delegation since sunday was it going to happen. they said well we haven't take an decision on that yet. so clearly they didn't take a decision on it, and it didn't happen. but i think and certainly the americans believed that it was because of complications that he would face in iran if he did it. and look, there are a lot of complications. but i do think that the serious nature of what he's saying in terms of being given the authority to negotiate by the supreme leader and that a consensus has been arrived at in iran to negotiate on the nuclear issu

. >> you may have riled michael duran. i want to talk about what may be the more difficult scenario. both houses of congress in their own separate ways, both down to the idea of the strike. if they've of vote yes, what does the president do with that new permission, does he just pocket this until a future date, or you would support the strike? or has he essential committed himself by asking to their -- for their permission? >> let me start by saying something that is very obvious but that we should think about for a second. i agreed with almost everything the per -- that jeremy said. what i want to say that is very obvious is we have a resident who, for two years, showed not just a reluctance, basically informed the american public, that intervention in syria is pure folly. nobody can argue that president obama has been looking for a pretext to get involved. another factor, public opinion is overwhelmingly opposed to this. this is also obvious. the third factor is that the military doesn't want to do this. i have never see

next to him is michael duran during the bush administration and writing a book now on historical background in the middle east that president eisenhower specifically has written a great deal about syria and has had this house one of his big areas of expertise and focus now for a decade or longer. those of you that followed twitter and follow the pages in general will certainly have seen a great deal of his work. next to him is jeremy shapiro back as a visiting scholar after having spent a number of years in the u.s. government and specifically the obama administration working among other things on this issue. he like others is speaking only for himself, but nonetheless will benefit from the experience and the insight he gained there. he's also the co-author with philip corydon of one of the best if not the best book on nato's role and the atlantic alliance role in the iraq war. very familiar on other aspects of the question with the international d date that is ongoing on the question. and suzanne maloney is one of the nation's best iran experts but certainly the best expert on iran's econo

. >> you may have riled michael the ran [captioning performed by national captioning institute] duranant to talk about what may be the more difficult scenario. both houses of congress in their ways, both down to the idea of the strike. if they've of vote yes, what does the president do with that new permission, does he just date, this until a future or you would support the strike? or has he essential committed himself by asking to their -- for their permission? >> let me start by saying something that is very obvious but that we should think about for a second. i agreed with almost everything the per -- that jeremy said. what i want to say that is very obvious is we have a resident who, for two years, showed not just a reluctance, basically informed the american public, that intervention in syria is pure folly. nobody can argue that president obama has been looking for a pretext to get involved. public opinion is overwhelmingly opposed to this. this is also obvious. the third factor is that the military doesn't want to do this. i have never seen body language less supportive of the m