. >> whittle's do we need to know? >> the basics are people or 62, homeowners, they need equity and they need cash, they are kind of house rich and tax poor. many took change some of this into a credit line. anybody over 62 who owns a home, starting in january they will be more restrictive. if people are thinking about doing a reverse mortgage now is probably the good time for them to do it. >> people can contact you. mrreverse.net >> you can always find me as well. coming up it is your e-mail's and i will go over how much money you need a certain age brackets. i will give you an answer right after this. >> one of the most important questions that people ask me is how much money do i need. there is no formula are that we can an early project. i wanted to get to retirement with at least a million dollars. >> when you are in your mid- 30s to your early 40's you want to develop a habit of saving. you at least half of your salary. if you are going to a have a reti everything that yn do to bolster contributions for your 401

- you'll have to ask the fella who whittled 'em for me. ♪ - it's her, isn't it? don't kiss and tell, jack. - ahh, because you're a gentleman, danny. it's good to finally have another one of us around here. - i'm just happy to be here. a month ago i was doing a robot act on the street, so i know my place. i want to be tgs' steve nash. come down from canada, work hard, make the black guy look good. - did you just make a sports reference? you know how little of that i get here? - look at me in the black light. it's tron. watch out, sark. it's me, flynn. [imitates light cycle] [chuckles] light bike. good job tonight, danny. robot lorenzo lamas was funny. as was robot ryan seacrest and david hasselbot. - hey, it's the writing. - it's really not.

dow jones industrial average reporting that blackberry has whittled down its list of potential buyers. a pop of 5.25 percent here. whenever you have a sniff of a rumor the stock moves. paul, who is left to buy this thing? >> i don't know. the company seems desperate here. the last six months they become more and more concern that yes, we are really for sale, please buy us. the whittling of the list i don't know how big that list is but if you are holding the stock you have high hopes for it and i think those high hopes are too high. >> i think it's sort of an odd announcement. we talked about it being called an auction. i wonder if it should be called a fire sale makes you wonder if they're unable to get a deal done by november probably can't be a great thing. i don't get why this is great news for the stock. it's been for sale forever. they put a timetable on it we should rally on it? >> we had a street fight last night that steve made exactly the point that what is happening right now. you see the stock rally six, seven percent. a lot of people use this as an opportunity to short it

. >>> the race to replace retiring boston mayor tom menino has been whittled down.martin walsh and john connolly will face off. >>> the pentagon has denied a multimillion dollar plan to upgrade the prison at guantanamo bay. now, prison authority has requested nearly $200 million to renovate the facility. military officials cite a lack of congressional support. >>> and that is your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> joining me now for our first look at politics is boris epste epstein. good to see you. >> let's start with someone talking and talking all night long and we're talking about senator ted cruz. his tea party colleague rand paul spoke out against his filibusteresque tactic to defund obama care but what does this stay when you have a major tea party voice against a potential 2016 hopeful? >> it's a complete mess. senator cruz is wasting everyone's time doing this. it is not a filibuster. it is not going to get anything done. it is just grandstanding really at its worst and doesn't make our party look any better or stronger going into the mid-terps or the

- you'll have to ask the fella who whittled 'em for me. ♪ - it's her, isn't it? don't kiss and tell, jack. - ahh, because you're a gentleman, danny. it's good to finally have another one of us around here. - i'm just happy to be here. a month ago i was doing a robot act on the street, so i know my place. i want to be tgs' steve nash. come down from canada, work hard, make the black guy look good. - did you just make a sports reference? you know how little of that i get here? - look at me in the black light. it's tron. watch out, sark. it's me, flynn. [imitates light cycle] [chuckles] light bike. good job tonight, danny. robot lorenzo lamas was funny. as was robot ryan seacrest and david hasselbot. - hey, it's the writing. - it's really not.

we are whittled down to one to two lanes to get you buy. that is slowing things down. as we take a look at our drive time traffic 580 is looking clear at 27 minutes away from tracy to dublin and highway 4 westbound from antioch to conquer at 16 minutes and 101 southbound from san rafael to san francisco through marin county is a 16-minute delay and the san mateo bridge is wide open and clear conditions as you make it up to the high-rise and not a problem from hayward to foster city at 14 minutes. >> 4:49. 81 people in pakistan are dead this morning after a suicide bombing outside a church. authorities say the attack happened yesterday in after a pr of suicide bombers blew themselves up among hundreds of worships. the pakistani taliban has said they difficulty, and they will continue until the united states stops drone attacks. 25 people in china are dead after the most powerful typhoon slammed into the region. this is video of a typhoon battering hong kong that made landfall in southern china last night. the storm forced hundreds of night cancellations. officials say h

. >> the team plans to whittle down the list by 2015.al dozen compete in mental and physical challenges on a reality show. 47,000 of the applicants where from the u.s.. everybody wants to be on television now it's been time to look at air fares. >> just as summer travel season is coming to an end it's time to start preparing for the holidays. three tips to help you get best experience possible. don't give us charges and that means you get extra leg room. make sure you take advantage of perks if you're part of an airlines rewards program or have an airline branded card you may be able to board early getting extra time to get settled and more space. you can get day passes for as little as $25. they're worth it, you can get more than $25 worth. >> walmart giving in on the smart phone trade in trend. you can get credit towards a new phone a nonworking iphone 5 will get a credit money going towards a new iphone or with a two year contract or apply fr a prepaid phone. walmart will refurbish old phone tlrz other programs giving you cash as well

whittling down the target list. finding a buyer by november.ors trying to begin the auction process soon. they have held talks with possible bidders. this will be big news tomorrow. david: the 10-year treasury, rate, that has become the symbol of where rates are going and if they continue going in this direction, now i know 3% is not a lot historically speaking but it is up four basis points. 2.9. edging closer to 3%. >> right. david: it has almost doubled by the way, this rate in past four months. >> it is basically two-year highs. 3% not historically not a big deal it is a big deal now, right? to be near that level. hovering around 2.9% today. [closing bell ringing] liz: as we see the markets close. dow jones industrials up 94 points. it is intel's stock the biggest gainer on the dow. they unveiled a brand new chip for something called a micro server. these are servers for smaller businesses. sort of lighter weight load to carey. some analysts believe they will be the instant leader in microservers. david: we want intel to do well. we want al

the president may whittle it down when he decides on a political objective.ouple of dynamics at play. a problem is we don't know what he is trying to achieve. melissa: meanwhile, the clock is ticking, time is going on. is that a positive or negative? >> at this point is it becoming very much a negative. it always was, the longer this goes on the worse it gets. let me add to peter's point. if you why the pentagon and you are thinking that you need test track targets associated with this year and chemical warfare complex, if you telegraph that you're giving them time to move everything. the more time you give them the harder it is going to be to actually target. the more they move around. the more they move around it you have to retarget. expand the targets and reflecting the fact that the cities are now having the time to react. president obama basically laying out his campaign plan for them. melissa: thanks to both of you. >> thanks for having me. melissa: next on "money," today's jobs report is stressing enough, but is serious a wild card? plus apparently no

my hope is that they will whittle it down to a text message that said people danced.efore i see a single dancer dance, i bet $1,000 on one of them to win. you can bet on this stuff for real. i have been doing this for years now. i am much more successful with dancing than i am betting with football. should i go through my picks? first time i did this, i picked the winner. the next season i chose kristy. she won. then i picked lance bass. i picked the second place. i then chose donny osmond. i then picked erin andrews. i picked jennifer grey. i chose heinz ward. i picked david arquette. and last season i picked the second place. six winners. only one time in 11 seasons did my pick come in lower than third. that's why they call me nostre danctres. and now it's time to make my prediction. earlier today i wrote a dancer's name and i folded it up and stuffed it inside a briefcase and then i stuffed the briefcase inside our security guard's mouth. that's right, guillermo. gee ra guiller guillermo, reveal my selection. and the winner of season 17 will be -- >> amber riley. >

democrats' long standing views such as on health care has been whittled down.c sentiment turns a bit more negative. just 27% say the u.s. economy will improve over the next year and two-thirds thinks the u.s. is on the wrong track. ubs says without a banking union cannot be the solution to europe's woes. our colleagues in singapore spoke exclusively with him about the proposals being discussed at the finance minister's meeting in lithuania today. >> you need the structural economies and the social system. europe needs to be much more competitive. a banking union we'll allow the banking system to be safer and contribute to this transformation. but you can't really ask a financial institution or the system to be the driver of changes in the economy. >> joining me now is ian gordon, head of bank research at investec securities. thank you so much for coming in. is this project at the banking union in europe, is that too ambitious of a project? can it ever succeed? >> at the moment, i don't think we really know what it means. instinctively, i'm bound to say it's a b

they order 15 to 20 pilots every year and then whittle them down to just a few.hey compete and they have production facilities, and they're trying to get those shows on the air. it may be that they're not nimble enough to get by. maybe the tv networks need to invest a little bit more. on the other hand they do think on their feet a lot of ways. the last 15 years for the reality show starting with "big brother" and "survivor," and then fox was so innovative on so many levels, you have to give them credit for "24" which is more of a cartoon than a drama, but that was an innovative show and the music shows like "the voice" and. >> reality tv seems to be saving the networks. on sunday the emmys are up against major shows. before it was all repeats and the emmy emmy's was the king of the castle. but we have "dexter," and "breaking bad," and then sunday night football which has only been on the networks for the last seven years. are the emmys becoming irrelevant? last year they had 13 million viewers versus sunday night football had 21 million. >> it really could be tr

so how do you whittle down to a small number? people in a survey said they are turned off because they're overwhelmed a choice and also turned off by people who work at wine stores who give a lot of pretentious commentary. it is overwhelming on a lot of levels but the secret is the fact is consumers reports have been testing wine for years and superb bottles can be had whether you like red or white for 10 to $20. often the difference between $20.100 bottle of wine is miniscule sold an expert can decipher. you should not be overwhelmed. gerri: my palate is just not that refined. there are experts who can tell the difference but i am not one of them. one of the things he talked about in your notes is costco is a great place to buy wine. how so? >> one of the leading wine cellars in all of america. only in 36 states because the state governed where wine can be sold by they have a limited assortment so you are not overwhelmed, they sold wine at the sweet spot. 25-$28 they average and they make a lot of wine under their own label that

arguments where he said he made the claim that problems led people to devise solutions that ultimately whittledeave society better off that one of the necessary things that has to happen for the problem-solving is there has to be a willingness to recognized that the problem exists and they think that is where the problem of today's climate conversation is. there are many people unwilling to accept the existence of the problem. it's always going against the very ideas that julien simon was advocating. to apply our own ideas and --. >> host: i love the image because it's dead on around this issue. who is that ehrlich and the simon today? you mentioned al gore and earth and the balance in the latter half of the book that even al gore seems to kind of have doing his stance on the hill and is not then so out there as he has been in the past. is there a temporary counterpart for ehrlich today or for simon that represents the respective routes if you will? >> guest: in terms of specific people --. >> host: i thought of james hansen on the ehrlich side as a scientist. you have this portion in the book

a committee will whittle down the list when all is said and done, only 2,000 will take part in the rigorous training that will eventually have them blasting off for mars in 2023. and they never return back to earth. the organizers say they may pay for it with a reality show. >> i don't want to editorialize here, but i think this is a load of -- fill in the blanks here. i don't think anyone's going to mars. sign. you >> it's so much fun to talk about it. a reality show and a ton of money. what are they going to do with all that money? >> absolutely. they're not going to mars. good luck with your endeavor. to be completely objective, i hope it works out but it's not going to. >>> coming up, his deadly drunk driving confession went viral. but now this ohio man must explain himself to a judge. >> and i'm really excited about this. it's a possible breakthrough treatment for women in the earliest stages of breast cancer. we have all the details coming up for you next. but going back to school is hard... because you work. now, capella university offers a revolutionary new way to get your degree. i

now you whittled it down every bond to pay for those things that the government used to excuse on the interest adoptions and it does not. the problem for me with fannie mae and freddie mac was they tried to play both sides of the street. if it's focused narrowly on a social policy -- the whole savings and loan came from people who did not have money to get into a home. at some point, we have to reassess homeownership, its value, and its cost. frankly, i don't know why a rental cannot get a deduction if somebody who can afford a mortgage gets the payment of the interest deducted. if somebody wants to live on a boat, why can't they get a deduction? white is a mobile home or manufactured housing depreciate and homes don't? it just needs to be a fun to-month-old -- a fundamental reassessment. freddie mae and fannie got carried away playing the market to make money and still wound up holding the bag on those 30 year mortgages. >> they made money on their multifamily housing. the other disadvantage is you can build up a good credit score by making your mortgage payment but you can pay your

the phone reach everybody at an equal level, that huge competitive advantage for the country is whittled away because few people, the more affluent will get access, still second class networks but better than their less well-off brethren will. new businesses won't be able to rely on our common interface so they will risk having the rug pulled out from under them when they want to attract new investment and get launched, equivalent access to health care for americans, education, every social policy goal we care about is undermined by not having universally available interconnected internet access. we won't get that without having some oversight because left to their own devices we will get what we have got which is the status quo, deeply profit driven enterprise. >> and also would like to emphasize once again, it has been mentioned by a couple people on the panel already there are still pockets of populations in this country that have no access, a very limited access, rudimentary access to even phone service, great phone service not to mention broadband internet and so forth. soviet demis

>> [scoffs] i have seen my employees whittle away at the integrity of la dogworks...by stupidity, byiness. by not--not coming to work. you hire people...and that's where your problem starts. the personalities, the laziness, the bad work ethic-- all these variables drive me crazy. how many times do i have to ask you to do something? how many times do i have to ask you? it's like the water torture-- boom, boom, boom. we're working together here, we're a team, we're a hierarchy. we're just like the dogs. who's the top dog, who's the alpha male? me. you gotta do what i say when i say it. i mean, if i could fire the entire staff and start from scratch, i would do that too. >> so who wrecked the van? >> well, neil. >> what do you do, just yell at him? >> i don't talk to neil, as a matter of fact. >> why? you don't like him? >> i hate him. he's a [bleep]. he's a--i'll give you $8.50 or $9 worth of work and not a [bleep] penny more and not any more effort. okay? that's neil. >> when he got bit by the dog and was bleeding, were you concerned about him or the dog? >> ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! o

corporate balance sheets continue to whittle down death and strengthen their balance sheets what is goingmarkets and money comes back into our market. the money really has not even begun to drop out of the bond market. most of that came out of the bond market went into money market fund. when that money comes into the market we'll get the next leg. think we're in real good shape. unless we hit syria and syria retaliates and market gets involved and i would use those problems as opportunity to buy to be short-lived. i think market is in a position to move forward through the end of the year in a pretty significant way. tracy: nikkei was on fire when we all woke up this morning. first time in a while, we saw our markets react what is going on overseas. will we start doing that again? will we get out of our little bubble and start focusing on the rest of the world? >> absolutely. there is, look what is happening with caterpillar today. 30% of the caterpillar's revenues come from china. japan has olympics that will continue to fuel japanese growth. there will be a lot of great opportunities w

we go through hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of headlines and we whittle them down to the three a lot more timely content because in this world of the internet that can be absolutely awful and can push you to write so many things. it's kind of incumbent on us. >> you've got more competition with shows like jon stewart and colbert. there are people doing not the same thing but in the general area. it this kind of comedy has become almost important. >> i say this to you. "the onion" has no competition. >> i knew this was coming. >> we blow everyone out of the water. you know "the onion" is different from "the daily show." i think both are very funny, but "the onion" does fake stories. we create news. we're not looking at a clip of news and creating a fake world. we create a story with each one we do. i think colbert is a little closer to "the onion" in that he plays character in that "the onion" itself plays a character. >> it must be funny what governments get duped. >> we love it. we love it when governments do. when normal people do it's sad. it's always a little sad to see tha

you have this problem with this skin in the game requirement on mortgages getting whittled away almostike nothing. barney frank said he thought that was the most important thing in the dodd-frank act. i don't think it is the most important but it is certainly an important thing. so, you know it looks like the, the dodd-frank act is a bit withering on the regulatory vine. lori: do you think ultimately dodd-frank will be implemented? it is watered down. it is so devisive, volcker rule in of itself, it is so confusing what has been implemented and what has yet to be determined. where will all this fall out? >> that's a good question and nobody knows the answer to it. we know what the law says and we know that the law obligates the regulators to promulgate regulations and then start enforcing them that are consist tented with the law. we're more than three years now since the law was passed. a lot of this work has not been done and you, it starts making you worry that, you know, not literally, but figuratively you drift into a common law regime which is contrary to the written law and thin

. >>> the number of people missing after the deadly flooding in colorado has been whittled down to ones swept away. six others who had been unaccounted for notified authorities they were alive and well. the death toll remains at eight. the state of colorado has launched an emergency inspection of 200 dams over the next week and a half to ensure their stability. >>> a utah man being held on $1 million bail for allegedly plotting to randomly shoot and kill people at a salt lake city mall. police say 42-year-old jack stiles had plans to blow up a city bus. crisis worker at a local hospital alerted police before stiles told her he allegedly wanted to kill as many people as possible. >>> a sweeping report from some of the top climate scien tips tn the world expected to point a finger of blame to humans. it will say there's 95% certainty that manmade global warming is real and that there hasn't been a leveling off in global warming since 1998 because much of the heat seems to be sinking deeply into our oceans. >>> finally, miley cyrus, here she is on the cover of "rolling stone" with a serie

and some of the positives that i just talked about, the increase in taxes that's helping whittle downially if you very carefully pick your spots on where it was the worst, right around the crisis, there's been improvement. however, i want to read a quote from the director of the cboe -- i'm sorry, cbo. and that's the person douglas elmendorff, and this is what he had to say after he talked about the improvement, the fundamental budgetary challenge has hardly been addressed. now, let's put up a chart. this chart from the cbo, and i urge all viewers and listeners on satellite radio to read this report and especially look at the charts. can you see by 2038, the debt is going to take over in terms of what the total size of the u.s. economy is. so we can't be complacent here. but when you talk to many about the current issues on the continuing resolution, the debt ceiling, what we end up with is political wrangling. believe me, i understand that. maybe our constitution was set up for exactly that purpose. but in the end, there's not much we could do with discretionary spending. there's not

he shows you exactly how it whittle it how. >> brian: jay called and fundamentally, that's how they madecalls. he used to sit and listen to ducks for hours by the pond in order to mirror it. it's a fascinating story. let's get to that fox news alert, if that's possible. we now know more about the former navy reservist who opened fire at the washington naval yard and terrorized everyone, killing 12 people before being taken out by police. >> elisabeth: fox news confirming aaron alexis had a history of violence, including several shooting incidents. peter doocy, one of the first at the naval yard yesterday is here live with the latest. thank you for joining us this morning. we know you had a long day yesterday. >> i can tell you that when we first arrived yesterday, as you saw, swat teams and ambulances were speeding toward the scene and shortly after we arrived, we saw helicopters making these daring roof rescues trying to save wound victims. but by the end of the day, the sirens were quiet and the medical examiner's office was here because before police were able to neutralize the shoote

they have to whittle it down to four. ople are getting -- ie hunger mean, they're like no! >> elisabeth: how is it working with simon? >> he's great. so cool. >> brian: hands on? >> very much so. he's a great guy. i like to take credit. he tells me, if it works, i'll take the credit. if it doesn't work, i'll give it to you. >> steve: how does your wife peel about that? >> i just thought there wasn't anything like that on any of the shows. and i said, simon, you've got enough testosterone, so that's why i pitched it. simon's angels. >> he said they're more like my devils. >> brian: from now on in, you'll be interacting more. >> yeah, as the show goes on, my presence grows. with the special format, you'll be seeing me every week. >> steve: one of the great things about mario, and he's been stopping by for years, he's got absolutely one of the best heads of hair. [ laughter ] tell us about how you've teamed up with somebody to give other men mario lopez hair. >> what all this stuff that i got going on, very blessed with everything i got going on, but it adds a lot of stress an

so we're whittling through our inventory.come back. we wrote an article on this. i think it's moving, but it's not going to be the 2000, 2004-2005 housing market by any stretch. and i was going to say, my favorite chart is probably initial claims versus job openings or job hiring, in fact. and you can see that deviation. and in your interview, you had a great interview with mr. dudley. and he pointed to that saying, look, claims may be low but you still don't have the job openings you need to see in a churning, robust labor market. >> two people for every job opening. >> okay. thank you all very much. >> thank you. >>> coming up next, the debt battle in congress continuing with the senate vote likely to come on saturday, but tough fights ahead in the house. we're going to talk to alice rivlin and kevin hassett about a path to a deal compromise. and then much, much more from our guest host jim lentz. how the company's lexus brand is trying to lead the luxury auto sales. ♪ nascar is ab.out excitement but tracking all the action

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now you whittled it down every bond to pay for those things that the government used to excuse on theterest adoptions and it does not. the problem for me with fannie mae and freddie mac was they tried to play both sides of the street. if it's focused narrowly on a -- the whole savings and loan came from people who did not have money to get into a home. at some point, we have to reassess homeownership, its value, and its cost. frankly, i don't know why a rental cannot get a deduction if somebody who can afford a mortgage gets the payment of the interest deducted. if somebody wants to live on a boat, why can't they get a deduction? a mobile home or manufactured housing depreciate and homes don't? it just needs to be a fun to- month-old -- a fundamental reassessment. fannie got and carried away playing the market to make money and still wound up holding the bag on those 30 year mortgages. they made money on their multifamily housing. the other disadvantage is you can build up a good credit score by making your mortgage payment but you can pay your rent faithfully every year for 40 years

the phone reached everybody at an equal level, that huge competitive advantage for the country is whittledaway because we have a few people, the more affluent who will be able to get access to second class networks but better than their less well-off brother will, new businesses won't be able to rely on a common interface so they risk having the rug pulled out from under them when they want to attract new investment and that launched at the equivalege access for americans, education everything we support is by not having interconnected internet access and we won't get that without having some oversight because left to their own devices we will get what we have got which is the status quo and deeply profit driven enterprise. >> i would like to emphasize what has been mentioned by a couple people on the panel already, there are still pockets of populations in this country that have no access, and very limited access, rudimentary access to even phone service, great phone service, not to mention broadband, internet and so forth. the demise of the sec as a gatekeeper, preserver of public-intere

we have indications networks and the phone and that huge competitive advantage for the country is whittled away. because we have a few people new businesses will be able to align a common interface and we won't have kernel access to health care for american education but we won't get that we get what we've got. we have the status quo. >> i would like to emphasize that there are pockets of populations in this country that have no access. a very limited access to even have phone service is already struggling to provide this to communities, this no providers to probably what i would like to say ways that populations that want to continue generation after generation. these places may never get service. those places would limit this and we would have a very difficult time to attract these profits in the profit driven providers succumb to the communities. they really don't have a we see in washington dc and other urban areas in this country. >> we had a commission, it is about a reform that occurred about a year and a half ago and put together a pilot program with broadband internet access servi

almost everything must be on the table to whittle down the size of our federal government for my childrenndchildren. i think if we accomplish this, we'll come close to pulling off that triple play that the wilmington blue rocks came close to pulling off a couple of weeks ago. in doing so, we'll do something for our fans -- not a lot of them these days -- for our fans to talk about for seasons to come. all right? the last thing i want to say is this, one of the amendments i think that, maybe a couple of the amendments offered to this bill have to do with health care. i serve on the finance committee, worked a fair amount on the affordable care act also known as obamacare. the heart and soul of the affordable care act as far as i'm concerned is the creation of the health exchanges, federal exchanges, or we call them marketplaces. the idea is to let everybody in this country -- not everybody, but a lot of people in this country who don't have health care coverage, or who pay an arm and a leg for it, give them the opportunity to participate in a large purchasing pool in their own state. we ha

that huge competitive advantage for the country is whittled away. will have few people, the more affluent, will be able to get access to still second class networks but better than their less well-off brethren well. new businesses won't be able to rely on a common interface so they would risk having the rug pulled out from under them when they want to attract new investment and they want to get launched. won't have equivalent access health care for americans, education. every social policy goals we care about is undermined by not having universally available ubiquitous world-class interconnected internet access. we won't get that without having some oversight. because left to their own devices we will get what we got, which is the status quo and a deeply profit driven enterprise as steven described. >> and also, i would like to emphasize once again, i think it's been mentioned by couple of people on this panel already, there are still pockets of populations in this country have no access, a very limited access, limited access to even phone service,

that huge competitive advantage for the country is whittled away. we have a few people more affluent who will be to be get access to still second class networking but better than the less well-off will. new businesses won't be able to rely on a common interface. they risk having the rug pulled under from them. all kinds -- every social policy goal we care is internet mined by not having universally available world class connected internet access. we won't get that without having some oversight. left to the own devices get what we've got which is status quo and deeply profit-driven enterprise. >> i also would like to empathize. i think it's been mentioned by a couple of people on the panel already. there are still pockets of populations in the country that have no access a very limited access. to even great phone service. not to mention even broadband, internet, and so forth. so the minds of the fcc as a gate keeper, as a preserver of public interest in that respect would already turn communities strug ming to survive with no providers to probably wh