, you would write reverend alfred sharpton.they had to explain to them i was a junior minister in my church. i was the kind of person that defined myself, which made me reject it in some circles. >> that's hard socially, yeah? >> it's very hard socially with your friends. i'm 7, 8 years old playing with playmates and their parents actually come hear me preach. try becoming a teenager and getting a date. it's a little weird. but not only do i talk about that, i talk about my father who abandoned us. and a lot of the complexes you have to go through of rejection. then the broader rejection, if you're black, if you're gay, if you're a woman, if you're -- and how we get by these rejections in society, and i use anecdotes throughout the book called my relationship with president obama and now that happened and michael jackson and james brown and mohommad ali. and what i learned about rejection and how you define yourself. >> what you say now is that society today should better understand that black success has always derived from co