i have certain photographers that i just was in awe of. .alker evans or manuel bravo then i kind of surrounded myself with this, these iconic images, and at one point, somebody gave me a camera and i actually started shooting myself again, which i hadn't done for maybe 20 years or so. i just immediately was pulled back into the whole magic of it, like,dea of, photographing and developing your own film and printing your own. so the polarway, opposite of being an actor and being constantly observed and performing. this was so anonymous and so private. of -- really a great kind it just gave me so much joy to do. that is how it began again for me. i mean, i just started taking my camera with me wherever i was going. but if ihot on sets, was traveling somewhere or on location, i would always have my camera, and i would always be -- the-s that kind of fly-on- wall approach. i don't engage the subject. i like to sulk about in the dark. [laughter] tavis: i'm glad you said that because you use a word that i want to go back to now. there is something uniquely different about one whose life has been spen