. >> carl rove called out the leaders of the movement to defund obamacare on thursday.ccording to rove, he said the tea party republicans acted as if more moderate republicans were in effect the enemy. he said they alienated colleagues who disagreed by insisting their obamacare supporters and the defunders' outside allies raise the threat of primary challenges. they became content to sit in judgment of plans offered by the house leadership turning thumbs down on anything not in conformity with the now discredited tactic to defund obamacare. i assume you agree with rove? >> why would freedom works, the things that they belief, why are they working so hard to accomplish one goal, and that's elect more democrats around the country? that's all they're going to do. when you look at today when they're going out today, groups like, you know, the tea party people down in mississippi are going after a that had cochrane who has been a solid conservative republican out of mississippi. he's not conservative enough. it's outrageous. what tear doing is they're going to cost -- they h

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we have the latest including analysis from carl rove. >>> also, senators ted cruz and former governormarch. greta joins us live as well. >>> plus, walmart is working to make hour products here in the united states and keep more jobs here on american soil. so who is making these products and why you should support them. >>> and wow, did you react to our no makeup segment on empowering young girls on friday? your feedback ahead. but first -- we are live on the senate floor for you right now. word of progress with majority

we have the latest including analysis from carl rove. >>> also, senators ted cruz and former governor sarah palin at the million vet march. greta joins us live as well. >>> plus, walmart is working to make hour products here in the united states and keep more jobs here on american soil. so who is making these products and why you should support them. >>> and wow, did you react to our no makeup segment on empowering young girls on friday? your feedback ahead. but first -- we are live on the senate floor for you right now. word of progress with majority leader harry reid saying lawmaker are getting closer to a possible deal on ending the government shutdown and boostzing the nation's borrowing limit. all this ahead of a big meeting at the white house. well, less than an hour from now. >> we'll see this afternoon whether this progress is real. i think there has been some progress in the senate. i think house republicans continue to think that somehow they can extract concessions by keeping the government shutdown or by threatening default. and my hope is is that a spirit of cooperation w

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can't just blame it on the government shutdown:00 lot of guy, mainly rich guy, give a lot of money carl rove. they heard a lot of promise, hey, the republicans are winning the media is biassed. they're not telling the poll. look at the drudge in the gallup poll and da, da, da, da, da. which if you are writing those huge checks they were writing, then it ends up your guys got it all wrong, so, yes. >> it makes the next day all awkward. >> yes. put those numbers up again. >> they're according to very expensive politics. >> very bad because in part of what has been going on the past six months, but there is a big problem, republicans are going to have to regain the trust him of a lot of their donors. >> i think the jobs figures shows the impacts of the economy. now poll after poll now has shown us what the impact is large with the public. this was not what people bargain for. they understand it wasn't worth it and it didn't have to happen and all it did was inflict damage on the republican brand. it will take a while. >> we got a lot of polls coming up in the next minute or two, it does, they a

rove joins us. nice to see you, carl. >> good to see you, greta. >> karl, the president is getting a lot of heat for that comment because people are saying he knew people would lose their healthcare plans are. i'm not so sure that he actually knew it that he was that connected to it i don't know if that makes it worse that he was that disconnected from the actual rollout or that he knew and looked the other way. i don't know which is worse. >> that's a good point. though, he had to know. on december 19th of 2009, the congressional budget office sent to congress a letter this was also received at the white house that said between 8 to 9 million americans are going to lose their employer-provided coverage. they thought that would be offset by 6 million people getting coverage by their employers who previously had not gotten it. says that black and white. march 20th of 2010, just as the bill was getting ready to be passed. page 10 from a similar letter from the congressional budget office joint committee on taxation. they say 8 to 9 million people will lose their employer provided coverage. that will b

rove joins us. nice to see you, carl. >> nice to see you, greta. >> boy, i will tell you, quite interesting in washington in the last 24 to 48 hours. jay carney won't tell the press corps when the white house knew that had hadn't been beta tested. won't give out much information. keeps saying talk to hhs secretary sebelius or hhs. your thoughts? >> i thought it was a spectacular press briefing by jay carney. we had some frank admissions. they never expected the volume that they got on the web site. really, okay. so, thank you for now stating the obvious. they should have expected the volume and they obviously had a lot of bugs because between the first weaning and the second week there is apparently an 88% decline in the volume which i have talked to some computer experts say indicates to them particularly since the white house and since the administration took the web site down for a period of time that there was problems in the code that were causing in essence when you logged on and you filled out an application there was some part of the software that caused the system to ping itself to create a quot

. >> if carl called out the leaders of the movement to fund affordable care act, according to rove heaid the tea party republicans acted as if more moderate republicans were the enemy, alienating colleagues insisting they were closest obamacare supporters, and it raised the threat of primary challenges... rove. >> absolutely, and the interesting thing is that why would freedom works - why would the things that they believe. why are they working hard to accomplish one goal - that's elect more democrats. that's all they are going to do. when you look at - when they are going out today, groups like the tea party people down in mississippi are going after that'd cochrane who has been a solid conservative republican, he's not conservative enough. it's not outrageous. what they are doing is they'll cost, as they have, over the last two cycles, they cost the united states senate seat in five states, nevada, colorado, mississippi, indiana. they are seats we can change public policies and do many things and the cost cutting measures that we agree on. you can't go into a political fight with no