. >> he has a develo different ste is saying, this is our job, this is what we should be doing in washingtonl: to what end, do you think it would change the law? >> i think that law need -- >> i know that but would if change the numbers. >> that is where the win hearts and minds of the american people, you stand up for your value, and stand strong. neil: all right, well, senator nelson, just the opposite stance with many democrats taking, they are not giving an inch that leads ni believ me to believe we're not getting this resolved any time soon, what do you say? >> look, washington has lost its concept of math. the best math in america today is addition, and multiplication, not division and subtraction, and dividing the country the way it is being divided today, what our business, and industry needs today is certainty, predictability, it is anything but that i think that business business said, to federal government, we don't think you are going to help us, just try not to kill us with uncertain ty. >> isn't that the problem? all of the spending by both parties, big old government is what a