frank lutz said, and he was specifically instructing my colleagues across the aisle, said it doesn't matter what is in the health care bill. it doesn't matter what good it does. whatever it is, let's attack it and call it a government takeover. now this was long before anybody knew what was going to be in the bill. so this strategy of poisonous partisanship rather than problem solving has been with us since at least april of 2009. therefore, a series of myths were generated. and as the process proceeded, those behind the myth kind of doubled down on it. for example, we have in the health care reform a process by which small businesses can join together and get the marketing clout of a large group, negotiate lower rates and get a better deal. but under the frank lutz let's demonize and deceive strategy, instead of honoring the fact that the small businesses will be able to get a better rate, there's been an assertion this would hurt small businesses. now in the health care reform bill, we have a process by which individuals who had no market clout can band together and get a much bett

under the frank lutz strategy, they decided to say this would hurt competition, even though it it putshens competition. people apples to apples having to lay out their rates and benefits under these different levels of insurance. we're seeing that competition let'sprivate companies. fast-forward -- we have that phase of the demonize the plant even though we have to mischaracterize it and dc it and delude americans about what's really in it. >> the senator's time has expired. i willnk you very much. wrap up with a sentence or two for my colleagues. thank you for coming to the floor. continue the conversation. it is so important that we put our government back on track and quit careening from crisis to crisis.thank you, madam president. coming up, president obama nominates janet yellin as the new fed resident, followed by "washington journal." treasury secretary jack lew will testify this week about the debt ceiling. ate coverage gets underway 8:00 eastern on c-span two. three, the senate banking committee will hold a hearing on the debt limit and the potential impact a u.s. default could ha

but indeed under the frank lutz deceive and demonize strategy, it became let's tell people the insurance rates will go up instead of down. we have a bill before us, not a bill but a health care reform law coming in to effect, that ends abuses in the insurance industry. a situation where you couldn't gate policy if you had a preexisting condition. the sort of situation if you had insurance and you get sick you would be thrown off the policy. the fact that children weren't able to stay on the policy until they were able to get health care insurance of their own. these bill of rights are reforms that are deeply sought by americans across this country, urban and rural, but under the frank lutz deceive and demonize strategy, there was simply an assertion unfounded that it would destroy the insurance system. so you a process where by under the marketplaces, insurance companies will have to compete -- private insurance companies, and yet under the frank lutz strategy adopted by some of my colleagues across the aisle, they decided to say it would hurt competition even though it strengthens compe

strategy,frank lutz they decided to say this would hurt competition, even though it strengthens competition. we're saying that competition from private companies -- seeing that competition from private companies. >> the senators time has expired. >> thank you very much. thank you for coming to the floor. continue the conversation. it is so important that we put our government back on track and quit careening from crisis to crisis. >> jack lew will testify tomorrow morning about next week's that ceiling deadline. he will take questions from members of the senate finance committee. the senate banking committee will hold a hearing on the debt limit and the potential impacts the u.s. default could have on the global economy. let's coverage at 10:00. >> the president reminded me that he was not going to negotiate over keeping the government open or over the looming need to increase the debt limit. >> we are willing to negotiate but we will not negotiate with her on -- with a gun to our heads. >> we will not negotiate under the threat of further harm to our economy and middle-class families. >> s

. >> frank lutz talked to his focus group about obamacare. who do they blame?believe obamacare is just going to add to the deficit? raise your hand. a majority of you. would any of you fire anyone for what went wrong? who would you fire? >> at least for the rollout, i'd fire sebelius. >> who else would fire somebody? >> i'd fire the president. >> okay. you can't do that. >> if this were another country, step up and resign. >> got brand-new paintings behind him. this has been a debacle technologically. but also keep in mind they had such high hopes they were going to have this gigantic rollout and so many people would sign up. according to a health industry consultant, based on the number of enrollments the feds sent back to insurance companies, the first week they think they probably wound up signing up 10,000 people the first week, 10,000 people the second week. the web traffic fell off 88% after the first week. they are probably at 5% of their goal. that's not good. >> now the other topic, during the shutdown, a lot of lawmakers are getting pressure and heari

frank lutz, and world war ii veteran said in the navy in that quote, i think the whole works should bereopened. we are here to tell frank and all of our veterans that can be. it's up to speaker boehner. the senate has passed a short-term bill to open up the government and end this manufactured crisis. we know there is a bipartisan majority in the house that now supports that approach. all speaker boehner has to do is let them know. this isn't the time to talk about opening up the government. it is the time to actually do it. the work of minix, no more games. stop scrambling to make it look like they care about families and communities impacted. do something to help them. once the house passes are built, one stands this crisis and stop threatening the country with another, then of course we would sit down with the republicans and work towards what we've been trying to work towards for more than six months come i want budget deal. in fact, it's been years to been trying to get there. i've been trying to start a budget conference. as you well know, it has been bought every time. so yes, l

frank. you have. are you really retired bob lutz? what is next for bob lutz? >> guest: i will definitely not be an executive in a major corporation. i am a contributor to ford or a cnbc contributor. i write and i am a board member of a variety of companies and a little bit of consulting and now involved with a partner in producing premium min's watches one of which is right here also starting a small automotive venture so i have plenty to keep me busy. >> host: i do not call that retired. with just a couple of minutes left its people a starting to follow in your footsteps would that be to male or female starting out on leadership? >> guest: be passionate about whatever you do. if you are passionate about fashion or the furniture business, go with that. hospitality common go into that. last night's i heard a sportscaster in said he is the most widely known sportscaster in the united states it he was walking around to be a sportscaster what he 12 gb his whole life so it is an essential ingredient or you are a nine to five slave watching the clock ticking off the

frank. you have. many would kill to be. are you really retired? what is next for bob lutz? >> guest: well, i am certainly not going to be an executive in a major corporation at almost the age of 82, but i do some writing. i'm a contributor to "forbes." i'm a cnbc contributor. i write a column for road and track magazine. i am a board member of a variety of companies. i do a little bit of consulting and i am now involved with a partner in producing premium men's watches, one of which is right here. that way are also starting a small automotive venture. so i've got plenty to keep me busy. >> host: i wouldn't call that retired. we've got just a couple of minutes left. you are someone with many thoughts, a lot of wisdom. somebody just starting out today they want to follow in your footsteps. you've got a lot to teach them. what was your parting words of wisdom be to some young person, male or female starting out on leadership? >> guest: well, first of all i would say be passionate about whatever you do. if you're passionate about fashion or the furniture business, go into that.