fourteen so to discuss this disturbing new development a little deeper into the story i'm joined by john miller brown global strategist with few international thank you so much for coming back on thank you for having me so you know when i heard this i was just kind of her broken because here you have this unprecedented trial he was convicted sentenced to eighty years and now we hear he might be granted amnesty i mean how do we go from that to this you know i mean the sad thing is that as much as it's heartbreaking it's not really a surprise with myself having worked with indigenous communities of the genocide cases in another region. there were many regions not just the she'll but they believe that it was the best case to move forward with the shield because they had the most evidence in that case i was fortunate enough to meet with one of the community members that i worked with very closely with the president of the witnesses association and while they were heartbroken the one thing they're saying is that you cannot take away that conviction this is the first time any head of state in any country h