the research shows when you try kids in adult criminal courts, they are liable to reoffend. they are capable of rehabilitation and can respond well when they are in a rehabilitative environment like juvenile justice systems. >> how about kip kinkles who open fire? >> not so much with the offense as it does with the young person and their maturity and their ability to respond to rehabilitative services and treatment. we know when young people are held in juvenile justice systems they are less likely to reoffend and more likely to become successful and productive adults. >> our community actually has of course a lot of tweets. mica says that i don't think juveniles should be incarcerated at all. nick agrees, there should be recognition that treatment may not always be possible. age becomes irrelevant after 16. the united states spends with $6 billion on juvenile corrections each year. what strategies might be as effective and efficient when it comes to rehabilitation and treatment? >> not only do we spend $6 billion on youth rehabilitation we spend $80 billion on adult rehabil

i believe that pretrial release should be based on three things, risk of violence, risk of reoffending or flight risk. i think that we have inject ed for many many years a commercial value to safety that i think needs to be reevaluated for the reasons that have been stated. the reality is that the current commercial value to the pretrial release has not only had an impact for minorities. 24 percent of hispanics do not get to bailout. about 35 percent of african americans do not get to bailout whereas white americans are right around 27 percent. but i think the problem we face is that we have not come up with good predictors of risk. and often the dialogue that occurs between a judicial officer and a district attorney and a defense attorney where there is a public defender or private counsel is really a discussion that is based on perhaps the individuals current offense, it maybe based on the individual's history of offending. it's really not a scientific way of having a discussion around safety and around flight risk. often many of the people that are given very high dollar bails are p

the reoffending rate for those taking part dropping by half. >> i might as well keep rolling with them it's going to mess up and i'm going to get into big grief. >> it'sic enmonths to get this this -- it's taken months to get this performance stage ready. but several actors argue that others couldn't give their role justice. >> he is one of the ex-offenders who have turned to the stage through london based rehabilitation. the former drug addict says it probably saved his life. >> i have got myself in a lot of trouble in terms of mixing with the wrong people. i wanted away out. for ten years i was trying to get out of this cycle. >> in the six years the program has been running more than 10,000 young people have seen a performance and this audience says it's as relevant as ever. >> i think it was a real eye opener. because a lot of people don't know that is what is going on in london here. >> while they ontario started out as a theater company for offenders it's been so popular and effective it's been forced to expand. they have a full arts program in two locationings across london. the

whether we are talking about the likelihood for reoffending in a violent way or the likelihood of notshowing up in court. i think there are systems in place that show a tremendous amount of promise. and we can continue to go down that path to create that tool to avoid to the greatest extent possible picking on those things that frankly large people are incarcerated in the past and still in many cases. and taking those away. and looking at the real risk. we know there are some people for a variety of reasons that will be inherently violent. and for those people, unfortunately the only thing that is going to work at that point in time is going to be incapacitation. and there is the ability to predict that with a high degree of certainty and still move away from factors are focusing on someone's race or gender. i believe those are valid tools that can be developed and there is a lot of knowledge base on that. and it's important for us to look at the possibility of skipping your due date in court. i think part of the validity and credibility of the court system is based on people agreeing

they are getting good quality care they are they say likely to reoffend and go back to jail.thers may object to struggling to pay for same quality of care of those who commit crimes get for free. >> william lajeunesse, thanks, william. >>> the government telling parents how they can discipline their children. they say it is okay to hit kids with a wooden spoon. have they gone too far? we risk american lives to capture top terror suspect al-libi. are they throwing away vital intelligence bringing him to the u.s.? >> back in 1983 the games bond movie never say never again number one at the box office. good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. >> it is october 9th. disgusting and disgraceful. families whose loved ones made the ultimate sacrifice for you and for me and our entire country denied death benefits. the shut down is to blame for this. there are new details about what's being done to change it. >>> the shut down

psychiatrists have testified that he has has a mental disorder with a high risk the reoffending.r this year he petitioned for the unconditional release. >> it sent a shock of fear through the los angeles community. >> he remembered the pillowcase rapist and was stunned to hear that he was being released. >> will this community be protected from this man? >> there's no way you can protect the community. he's not living in a cage. he's going to be roaming around. and that's the problem. that's how rapists attack and how he attacked in the past. >> reporter: how is it he can be released here? there is is school. but farther away than the 2000 feet minimum by the california law. there's a park, but again, just slightly farther than 2,000 feet. this is an appropriate place for a man who has done his time. neighbors are outrage and disagree with the judge saying that hubbard has never lived here. >> if you served your time, shouldn't you be allowed to live? >> yes. but why in a community that you have no relationship or ties with. >> he will wear a monitor and other limits including a

his psychiatrists testified he had a mental condition, with a high risk of reoffending. early year this year, hubbard petitioned for his provisional release. >> it sent a shock of fear throughout the community. >> reporter: the l.a. county board supervisor remembers the pillowcase rapist, and was stunned to hear that a judge was releasing him to his very own county. will this community be protected from this man? >> there is no way you can protect the community. you don't have 24/7 protection, he's not living in a cage. he's going to be roaming around. that's the problem. that's how rapists attack. that's how he attacked in the past. >> reporter: so how can hubbard be released here in the neighborhood of young families? there is a school, but far enough away required by california law. there's also a park where children play two minutes away but, again, just slight farther than 2,000 feet. this is, as the judge said in the state of california, an appropriate place for a man who has done his time. >> i don't think it is fair or right. >> reporter: the residents of neighbo

. >> and now that the government is reoffend and this threat to our economy is removed, all of us need to stop focusing on the lobby lobbyists and the bloggers and the professional activates who focus on conflict and focus on what the majorities of americans sent us to do, grow this economy, create good jobs, strengthen the middle class, educate our kids. lay the foundation for broad based prosperity and get our fiscal house in order for the long haul. >> the president was stern. he scolded those republicans. the underlying dynamic john that brought the nation to the situation that we saw play out over the last month has changed at all, you've talked about it just three months to go until the next potential government shutdown. >> so mike he's got a lot on the table. syria yeep egypt iran and edward snowden in russia. >> the president has come under criticism for a lot of that, the nsa, the story that features edward snowden, the drone attacks, many on his side of the aisle as well as the republicans have attacked him. perhaps inadvertently unfortunately for many republicans, from the

his psychiatrists testified he had a mental condition, with a high risk of reoffending.r, he petitioned for his provisional release. >> it sent a shock of fear throughout the community. >> reporter: the l.a. county board supervisor remembers the pillowcase rapist, and was stunned to learn that a judge was releasing him to his very own county. >> will this community be protected from this man? >> there is no way you can protect the community. you don't have 24/7 protection, he's not living in a cage. he's going to be roaming around. that's the problem. that's how rapist attack. that's how he attacked in the past. >> reporter: so how can hubbard be released here in the community? there is a school, but far enough away required by california law. there's also a park where children play but again just slightly farther than 2,000 feet. this is, as the judge said in the state of california, an appropriate place for a man who has done his time. >> i don't think it is fair or right. >> reporter: the residents of neighboring palmdale are outraged, disagreeing with the judge sayin

very quickly, chris, the reoffending rates, one of the things that i think you noted in florida moret to one florida juvenile prisons wind up arrested and convicted of another crime within a year of their release which compared to state like new york, it is about a 25%. basically we are not only not helping these kids, we are actually putting -- making them more likely to have a life of crime. >> right. i think the question in all of this is what is the point of the corrections. i think this is kind of a -- to try to prevent children from becoming adult criminals. it is supposed to be -- this is truly where it should be rehabilitation and in this case, you know, i think -- >> profit. >> well -- i think in this case the results we have seen of -- have been pretty abysmal. >> all right. thank you to chris. wonderful series. and angela phillips, that does it for me. thanks for watching. we will be back here tomorrow at the same time. second -- we chip away. making the colors of earth and sunset skies into rich interior accents. or putting the beauty of a forest in the palm of your hands

with the probation service is a service that is much more focused on getting results, on stopping reoffending and also making sure that we give people services in terms of rehabilitation, from the moment that they leave prison. that doesn't happen today. but it is interesting, mr. speaker, 26 minutes past 12:00, not one question from labour on the economy. they got nothing to say. they got nothing to offer. they are embarrassed. the prediction after prediction was completely wrong. >> right honorable friend, i agree. >> order. >> question from the honorable member must and it will be heard. >> thank you, mr. speaker. my right honorable friend, i welcome the full folding unemployment down to 3.7% in my own constituency, but, will he recognize with me that's one of the biggest problems is young people with special needs, particularly autism, aspergers getting to work and congratulates the lond door borough of red bridge and interfaith parents group project started with first young people of special needs in work? >> well, i know my honorable friend's close attention to this issue and deep care

the program will target men and women who have prior arrests and are at risk of reoffending and who significantly impact public resources. the funds will be used to hire a case manager to oversee the programs. >> it feels like summer, let's go to rosemary and see if it will warm up any time soon. look at the temps behind you. >>> we're in the 40s and many cases inland east bay we're waking up in the 40s. it's a blue sky and a few clouds there. the low clouds again not as widespread this morning. i'll show you the footprint on that in just a moment. we're waking up with patchy dense fog for some. this is the stretch from petaluma, just inside the east bay, 39 in nevada right now, and that looks be the chilly spot on this map t as we shift east 40s, had 46 in lafayette. without the low clouds we are chillier than we were yesterday morning. it will be a cooler start outside your door. here is a look at some of the cloud i'm seeing here. in santa rosa we had patchy fog, the dense fog, and the low clouds are hugging the coast, and getting into the east bay to richmond, you can see from freemont and st