which was the deregulation and so he's ascent robert rubin was this guy who worked at goldman sachs all his career then took a stent to the treasury and then kind of cashed out after and went to citi group and he had all these people under him like her and summers and his essentially whole economic team was inherited by the obama administration and so he's kind of surrounded by people who are drinking the kool-aid that wall street is our only hope is that they're drinking the kool-aid or is that that if they told the truth robert roode probably be going to jail too i think that it's both yeah it's there has been for years and there have been people who have gotten away with immense crimes for years and i think there's there's that and it's also they're just too afraid of this delicate recovery and they're too afraid of of doing too much to interfere with it but the problem is the recovery is kind of a sham much of the recovery is gone to the one percent and so we're really just kind of creating another bubble which will inevitably lead to another crisis by kind of closing our eyes i

and i think that's why we got robert rubin and we got tim geithner and we got the kinds of people that have. >> clinton democrats? >> the clinton democrats. and i think that's why obama picked, i think, the wrong people to be his financial advisors when he came into office. >> but there are with all due respect very few signs of leadership on a progressive agenda in congress, in washington for workers, for consumers or the environment. the congressional progressive caucus 76 members, they put forth an ambitious "back to work" public investment agenda in education, infrastructure which is in terrible shape in this country, renewable energy. and it was categorically ignored. yet the 90 tea party members in the house can shut down the government? >> well, you know, the desire of the progressive movement is for the democrats to act more like a party, to act more like a movement. and there are enough democrats in both houses of the congress to do that, but they need to be more disciplined. and also we need to realize that change doesn't happen from inside washington. it happens from the gra