>> guest: so the hardest example for people to accept from westborough baptist church in topeka kansas. when i went very very much wanted to dislike the church. they are so angry. it seems like they are so hateful and yet they tried to explain to me that what they are doing is out of love because they believe that they have been instructed to love their neighbor and how can you love your neighbor more than to tell them that they are going to hell but they have a chance to turn around so they believe what they are doing is a loving thing. that is really hard for the west rest of us to accept and i don't expect everybody to accept that without skepticism but i think we have to at least take a moment to consider where they say they are coming from. >> host: jeff chu did you interview members of the phelps family and where you out to them? 's. >> guest: i spent four days in topeka having dinner with the phelps talking and worshiping with them in church going on protest with them because they really wanted to understand what life was like in that congregation. they were very open with me an

backing up traffic towards westborough and the southbound direction.ct delays for the to a the southbound it is always slow but this is slower than normal. looking at the westbound bridge it is being incident-free. the san mateo bridge, is also fine. between 13-15 minutes. and at the golden gate problem- free on the 101 south bound. through marin county, is backing up in the drive times are already to 38 minutes. we are looking at 40-through marin county. now, let us take a look of the weather. >> we can see that blanket of cloud coverage is a pretty greagray start through of portions of the sierra nevada. with delays at s f o but first, i wanted to show you this shot of the interstate-80 through trustckeyy breakingnews@kron.com we would love to show you these photographs this was sent in from one of our viewers. >> 60 menace with low visibility is the average >> 60 -- minutes with low visibility is the average delay time. for the arriving flights as this fog still is impacting most bay area airports. still however, we are expected to seek mid-60s alon

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stanley in westborough, massachusetts. caller: ok. i just had to move into a studio from a one-bedroom to help cut costs. i am an engineer. i actually had to work 15 years and it drifted into a cash because theyy didn't do the right thing with the taxes that i would hate if i did any. knowhile, i would like to who the 2000 people who turned in their citizenship where out of curiosity. that is last year. , i don't carer about the obama care. i only worry about the young people in my family tree. so stanley, what would you like to see happen with regard to the shutdown. caller: i don't know how to correct what they are not doing. i just don't know. host: all right. we appreciate your weighing in this morning. .ill site search for a deal house republicans led by speaker john boehner are coalescing around a strategy to reach one big agreement to end the shutdown eliminate the threat of default. tony, winchester, massachusetts republican line. what are your thoughts on the shutdown? over the vehement objections of democrats in both the hou