what we do with the department with the puc and department of public health, they are large departments demand recent months puc has been dealing with the disasters with the rim fire and the payroll has to be negotiated along with our union. >> they are just informing that there is another committee that is going to be to havecovered at 2:00. we are going to have to kick it into high gear. >> let's flip to a couple sides. they have asked the departments to come speak about several recommendations that have not been implemented and what they are doing. so forth and on to their department. how about if we go there? >> that sounds good. >> okay. okay. so we are going to look at highlights from our 2004 report and that report hat 28 recommendations. the audit found that leasing 6 parking garages to non-profit corporations was unnecessarily costly and had several recommendations to improve the department's management of those garage leases. two recommendations remain open in that subject matter. the audit found that the department needed to do more to ensure that it would comply with the req

is the health department keeping record or the planning department keeping record? >> i would guess that they would both have some measure of record keeping. whether they could share that record keeping, i can ask the department. but i believe planning would have a record of anybody that, you know, any referral that would be tied to the address just l

is the health department keeping record or the planning department keeping record? >> i would guess that they would both have some measure of record keeping. whether they could share that record keeping, i can ask the department. but i believe planning would have a record of anybody that, you know, any referral that would be tied to the address just like the department of public health would. i think it would be both. >> can the public health department share the information with the planning? >> that's exactly what's happening here. public health is sharing information with planning. planning is checking it to make sure it matches the planning code. that's why there's a fee. >> so, they will share it. >> they're sharing information. then should they not charge the fee? i mean -- it's provided by the health department. >> you could potentially roll the fee into one fee and planning could take a bit of the health department's fee. i think this is probably the way it works for most use applications so, that's why they're proposing it in this case. fully understand the

of technology and department heads that represent major service areas as well as i want to make sure to thank j.naf, our city's chief innovation officer as well as [inaudible] from my office who's been working hard for many of the members of the entrepreneurial members out there, not only here in san francisco but also nationwide, we have in front of us an opportunity to cement san francisco standing as national open data lead and her can continue to push forward the bar to create better outcomes and results here in san francisco as a result of passing this ordinance. i would be happy to take any actions and i hope to have your support today. >> thank you, supervisor farrell, i would like to ask a question of the timeline, just for clarification, when i looked at the amendments on there, so you want to change the first item which says [inaudible] >> chief data officer. >> okay, and then the next thing is this 3 month, the city department shall designate department data coordinators, would that remain the same or would that push it down a little bit since we don't know if we have the

department to other departments in this country, this is a very progressive forward looking police department. this is the department whose chief of police when stopped and frisked came up publically and immediately who said stop and frisk isn't appropriate. he came up and disagreed with the mayor on that that's the kind of department we have. to suggest that this police department is going to all of a sudden morph itself into a department that engages in a maliciousen for thement en n enforcement, i respect their position. this is a piece of legislation that will help us reduce vandalism in the park. we need more patrol officers and we need better resources in our police department and park control. this is not some sort of global solution, but it will have a positive impact. thank you. >> supervisor campos. >> i want to talk a little bit about that because i think if there is one thing that i completely agree with supervisor wiener is the fact that we do have an incredible police department. i think we have the best police department in the country. but i can tell you that i actually think

>> wouldn't our department have the authority to say whether there were changes or not? >> and if we say that there were no changes, why do we have to send it back? why can't we just keep it? >> commissioner melgar? >> i get that, that is the point. but, we, but it is since we are the building inspection department, we are perfectly capable and our staff is perfectly capable of assessing if a change to the building, is happening, actually i think that we are more capable than the planning department to do that. in the instance where there are, then it is totally appropriate to send it back to planning but the bulk of the permits that don't have that, why are we farming that off to planning? it seems that it is actually our jurisdiction? >> commissioner walker and then, you have to field three questions. >> so, i think that there can be challenges to a permit, even going through our department, being built as applied for. and in which case there are not necessarily changes, and it is just determinations in our department in buildings, like, you know, where lights, or wher

i want to security commitment from the sheriff's department. supervisor avalos. >> thank you. i appreciate that question. there were a number of ways to support inmates in the jail system and it seemed like there's not unify effort applied to that. brooe from the sheriff's department was hero we made a request to put forth the fund to reduce the cost of the calls but there wasn't a commitment. i would submit a greater push for real commitment on behalf of the sheriff's department to lower the cost of calls. so if we want to continue legislation i'd be happy to do that >> mr. controller. >> supervisors ben rolling fold. it's in the privy of the board to continue the contract important that discussion. that kind of agreement with the sheriff's department is with the appropriation of the fund balance and ultimately the board of supervisors makes the final decision. so when that proimths come down forward the pot the sheriff's department will propose how to spend that money and the board can a attach conditions to it. so if the appropriation come forward in next year's budget that

so, the planning department will get the referral from the department of public health and make sure that it matches what the zoning is. and, so, because planning has an involvement in it, that's what they've calculated their fee to be. there's not really -- we don't really see an alternative for planning not having that referral. i do expect them to be here soon and they might be able to elaborate a little bit more, but at the most basic level, it's a planning code issue. cottage food is defined in the planning code. planning has to, has to review it. and, so, that's why there's a fee. >> are there any other zoning fees for other home-based businesses in san francisco? >> this would be the first -- this would be the first allowance of something like -- exactly like this out of a -- it's in the planning code to my understanding. i don't know that there's anything comparable, but the planning department does make -- does look at, you know, whether a particular use matches a planning code all the time. there are charges and fees associated with that. so, it's not unprecedented in that

and we work with the police department in that effort, but i would not comment on the police department's position. >> so you wouldn't challenge that statement today? >> i don't think that's my purview, no. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you for your presentation. okay. well, let's go back to the civil grand jury for closing remarks. good morning, thank you. >> good morning, my name is suzanne tucker. i also served on the commission on the golden gate issue with homeless. one it is already illegal to sleep in the park. second, we heard from multiple people that no good things happen in the park at night. i think what the park department is asking for in that particular legislation is something that is more clear as it relates to the hours when it is not legal to be in the park. there is another very very important issue that seems to have gotten missed and that is in general, there are two types of homeless in the park. there are what we will generally call older homeless who believe it's their right to live in the park. these are the moren entrenched, they know the park, they live in the p

us on the budget committee will be looking at some of the recommendation and another one is the department of children, youth and families, and is being requested to work with the community based groups and many of them that spoke today to develop the plans to expand the number of sponsors to the snacks to the youth in san francisco and to report back by march of 2014, and i am glad that okeefe who all three of us have worked with has been here and the coordination with the school district and many community based programs is really critical. but i think that my eyes have been and my stomach have been opened up in a lot of ways to a lot of the comments, and i think that innovative ideas on the eseros and the working kitchens and the wiring and a key goal and we need to look carefully at a lot of the suggestions and the suggestions of new concepts like food gentrification, or the food used as an economic development tool that can provide the jobs and better access and roof gardens, in many of the hotels and the strong coalition building among the leaders has been really inspiring. and from

and i think the department and the staff, and

so you can donate things for free for other departments to use and saves money and departments that need something can go to the virtual warehouse first to see if there is a desk and a filing cabinet or a chair and they can get it for free by picking up those items from the donating department. >> so, what is recyclable in san francisco? well, bottle and cans, glass, colors, and even the lids alum um cans, and tin cans and even foil. people ask do i need to wash it? empty it out and give it a rinse, clean paper, and that is glossy paper and white paper and cardboard and things like phone books or envelopes even if there there is a window or a metal. plastics are confusing because there are a lot of plastics, don't look at the number any more, don't look for the symbol on the bottom of the container, ignore that altogether. the best way to know if it is recyclable is if it is not a film such as a bag wrapper, you can actually recycle it. if it is a hard plastic such as a bolts or a tub or your plastic coffee lid put it in your blue bin, material is taken to pier 96 in san francisco a

we just got the nod from the department. and this brings up a question. is -- i don't recall whether the occ, if that's happening. does that happen in tandem or whether that's separate, the capital, you know, items for the occ. do you do your requests at the same time of year and same process? for some reason it didn't come up in this whole scheme. >> the o cc doesn't have a capital budget so that's why it didn't come up. >> so it's just a couple of cars essentially. i don't know, maybe that doesn't -- automobiles don't fall under capital. >> i don't know, commissioner kingsly, but... >> you don't have a separate budget, everything's in your operating budget? >> everything is in the operating budget. >> thank you for helping me. >> i suspected it as we were moving in that direction, but that makes sense. thank you director. >> thank you, commissioner terman. >> i would like to say we cover as a commission a great many items. i am, by and large, proud of the work we do here, but we don't do it alone. we do it with great support and help of the commission s

this culminated in a department bulletin and that has expired and so miss marian did work with the department on renewing that department bulletin and as i understand it is in concurrence. that concludes my report. >> thanks very much . you being down four investigators is causing us some concern so i think we need to address that. >> thank you for a very thorough series of reports and commissioner raises a good point, the vacant positions are raising concerns. if i understand correctly, you don't think you'll be able to fill those positions which is july 2014? >> this is correct, and the reason being, it's a structural deficit. it is not uncommon for city departments. i was told by the budget analyst that, for example, the police department is holding 100 positions open and even though positions are identified in the budget and the budget appears to fund those positions because there is an attrition factor, as well as a step adjustment factor, it causes a budget to not be able to fund all of its positions. what i have at the office of citizen complaints is -- it's called step adjustment that

and it goes down throughout a department.listen today, you will hear stories of fabulous individuals. and you will say, wow, what is that san francisco department doing? it's not just them, look to yourselves because those values began with all of you. family and friends and those who love our officers. and thank you for being here today. it's my privilege to preside over the process to select these officers. and i look forward to the presentations by each of the captains. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, vice president turman and thank you president mazzucco. i understand that the mayor is on a tight schedule. i would like the mayor to come up and say a few words, please. thank you. >> thank you officer monroe. good evening everyone, this is a really happy occasion. and i did when chief suhr notified me that this would be happening, i wanted to make sure that i put time in to come before you for a brief moment. and to share my appreciation to the police force. to commissioners, the president mazzucco, and to the entire co

as far as current events also in the department, department command staff, the mayor and the fire department command staff marched together on veteran's day to recognize our -- those that have been in the armed services, which is a big honor for us. today i was at the alameda oes for the zone two meeting with the attorney general. she actually recognized the department for some of the progress we made in the area of technology and the justice mobile act and the smart phones and /aeu nouned there'll be a new initiative coming out that the attorney general hopes will join all counties in california for shared regional information sharing, which is something people have been talking about, a bit of a holy grail since 9-1-1. also, the san francisco police department was recognized, officer /phab lo for their efforted during the saving of the elderly woman at the fire. they were recognized with an attorney general's award, which was a nice thing to do since all those other law enforcement agents were present. the thing that everything keeps asking me about in light of all the other great work the

as is also our usual practice this evening, we usually awe allow, both parties and department council to make a few minutes of comment if they want to on the subject of findings that are before you, but in the end it's the commission's findings and decision about what best states how they analyzed and decided the case. >> i just want to make sure we're looking at the right document. is this the document dated -- i'm looking at the date up here. it is the [inaudible]. >> yeah, you have -- >> that's the one -- >> you have proposed findings from mr. alden that came in dated february 15 of this year. >> correct. >> and you have proposed findings that i submitted to you through the commission secretary and the date on top of there is november 11 of this year. >> okay. that's the final document that we're looking at. >> yes. >> that one, i got that one. >> both of those are before you. >> okay. they're both before me. commissioner, that we'll hear statements from both -- you want to begin? >> yes, commissioners, i guess i received attorney blitz document yesterday and i contacted inspector

the water department jeremy, right? >> spring valley water company. >> this on page 8 item two describes what these records are and if you go to the water department offices down across unite had had nations plaza on 1155 market street they will bring out the original document and their very efficient and quick and it takes a few minutes. they are all written on pencil on onion skin. you can find out how many horse troughs were approved and things like that which is often very useful in determining when there are multiple buildings on a residential lot it will help determine if the secondary building has a history of habitant occupancy or what occupancy it was. >> once again you can get those at what? >> 1155 market street. the manager of the water department that time gathers staff while the city was burning and some people were hauling buckets of water and somewhere hauling records out. if your researching a building that's pre 06. that's probably some of the best sources of information about your building that you wi

2.01 rule 10 is changed to department general order 11.01. those are the edits as i understand them from the commission. >> for the record record -- yeah, so -- i believe that's what we discussed. did you hear any differently. >> i want to be clear, when we said we took the two pages, it's just that we read them. >> list as any work considered. >> with those amendments, i would move in /aeu adoption of the findings of fact as amended by the reading miss police just gave. >> second. >> want to take role? >> vice president terman. >> i. >> commissioner chan. >> i. >> commissioner kingsly. >> i. >> commissioner marshall. >> i. >> motion passes unanimously. >> that concludes this matter. the findings are adopted. thank you very much. >> next item mr. secretary. >> that will be a closed session item mr. vice president, next, 6b. >> commissioners, as there are not really any matters and we have already engaged in some closed session activity, i would say that we put this one off until the next meeting. is that okay? >> yes. >> i'm fine with that, s

the fire department as a lot to do with fire escapes in san francisco. we have tens of thousands of fire escapes in san francisco. it's sort of like utility wires, until you start looking for them. you don't even see them. today we're going to look at them and for them and talk a little bit about what they are there for and how they should be maintained. what our standards are. so we are right here in front of building services office at 1660 mission street. we have one of many buildings served by fire escapes. they are typically used when there's a required means of existing or egressfrom the building. this building has a main stairway and all these fire escapes. i don't know about the backside. it probably has more exits that would be typically required to have. >> typically fire escapes are the second. the first is for existing buildings. my guess is the building has been broken up. that's why they add more than one fire escape. >> and in fact one of basis of the building code is to get people how the. how do you get people out safely? >> right and th

from the department obviously. and this is very similar to, for example, someone who has a leak, or a plumbing issue on the building and they contact the plumber and the plumber will show up and they will not necessarily get a permit from the department. >> i understand that, so when we work on the public right-of-way, any time that they are trimming a tree and their vehicle is parked and removing that does require a permit? >> that will be correct, yes. >> okay. >> is there any way could you contact the mta or does our department contact them, regarding the flagger? >> well, the permit suggests that a flagger was required. >> for that permit, but in general, so that, you know, because the appellant has raised the question that he feels that a flagger is necessary, for the work that has been performed and is being performed now, in the past so i figured if we could get the clarification on that and then the appellant will be satisfied as to whether a flagger is required or not require. >> normally, where a flagger

>> he is the victim of a crime with our department. >> the sheriff's department began investigating immediately following the shootings and stabbing at aldon smith's party. an investigation that spanned 15 months. during that time behind this gate on a saturday this past june, an event at the sheriff's shooting range. to raise money for the sheriff's advisory board. >> did you see aldon smith there? >> yes. >> did you interact with him? >> i may have talked to him. >> did he ride in your helicopter that day? >> yes. >> shooting rifle, a helicopter ride and socializing with the sheriff and members of her department. >> there are some in your department that say that's a conflict of interest. >> why? why? >> because his party, he may have been under investigation by your department. >> why do you say he's under investigation? he's a victim of that. at his house. >> a curious response, because just two days after that interview, 15 months after her department started its investigation, the district attorney filed criminal charge against aldon smith, labelled a defendant, charged with three counts

i know this department bulletin when it was adopted. i know it was a really important bulletin dealing with towing and cars getting towed. some cases cars gets towed and it costs lots of money. i haven't seen a lot of violations. i'm wondering if this is unique or has happened other times the occ has seen. >> commissioner chan, in this case, this did not involve an immigrant. this involved two african american women and it is unique to its particular facts. >> interesting. and this bulletin certainly was meant to help everybody so that's interested. okay, good to know. and then last thing, con congratulations to the executive director position, but i want to know now that the position has switched to deputy director, if anything has changed in terms of responsibilities or is it just a title change? >> no. it is not just a title change, commissioner chan. a deputy director is an exempt position that serves at my pleasure and in addition to having the responsibilities of chief of investigations, the deputy director is involved in helping