. >> for more i'm joined by dr boyce watkins, a founder of black world coalition and a scholar in resident at syracuse. and dr willie gordon, a psychologist and the author of "practical parenting", we are seeing more of these attacks recently or are hearing more about them. what do you think is happening? >> well, i think teenagers have an inclination to engage in some degrees of social dooefians. there's alarm that the fad could catch fire, especially since the media is grabbing this. 18 over two years is not a big number, but it will increase because teenagers know that it is the cool thing to do. i think that what you see is - as a society and kids, they are desensitised to violence. you play a knock out, but you do it with ak-47s and attacking citizens. there's desensitiesition to violence and we are ignoring young people, it's haunting us. >> the question is we don't know how many of the attacks occurred. new york city police commissioner ray kelly said some victims don't report the attacks because no robbery was involved, and in some cases they may not know what happened. we have 18

dr. boyce watt continues wattwa. and thank you both for coming on the show. dr. watkins i want to start with you.here are reports that attacks like these have been around for a decade or more. but we are certainly seeing more attacks recently or hearing more about them. what do you think is happening. well i mean, i think teenagers naturally have be a inclination to engage in some degree to social defensivians. defensive -- defensivians. defensive g i think what you really are seeing is a society where our kids are desensitized to violence. they grow up playing grand theft auto and you are doing the knockout game but with ak 47's and attacking random citizens. thit's a lot to be alarmed abou. >> we don't know how many attacks have occurred. some victims don't report the attacks because there is no robbery involved and in some cases they don't know what happened. we have some numbers across the kung. country 7 in new york city and one in denver and one in syracuse and two in st. louis and one in chicago who died and we have another one in san diego. dr. gardier new york seems to be the e ep ep b e