dr. thomas sowell one on a have there have been in the united states? >> guest: it's one of the most lucrative occupations. some have said if i have tried to convert jesse jackson to my views in times said i'm sure jesse jackson makes 10 times what i make great how can you ask a man to reduce his income by 90%? >> host: what is there race that you talk about? >> guest: the naacp played an important role but one of the problems within the institution that has one goal is once they have achieved that old they don't say all right folks we are having a going out of business ceremony. they have to go on. the eeoc for example they have to prevent discrimination but is they have to expand the definition of discrimination so now if you don't want to hire people who have been in prison they think that's discrimination. >> host: you write in "intellectuals and race" that the kind of society to which that can lead when you talk about the race industry etc. is one in which a newborn baby injures the world supplied with prepackaged grievances against other babies bo

dr. thomas sowell at stanford university and here's his most recent book, "intellectuals and race". this is booktv on c-span2. husk of the chief correspondent of the "washington post" has a new book out on the 2012 election, collision 2012. dan balz why do you so where coalition? >> guest: i thought this election was a collision between a lot of things that collision between the americas the america that elected president of bombing 2008 and the america that elected the republicans to take control of the house in 2010. there was a collision of philosophies, of ideology and really a collision between two quite different personalities and people in president obama governor romney. if you think about where each of them came from, they could have been more different. >> host: was there a point when the winner of the collision could have been? >> guest: well you can argue a year out the president was very vulnerable. in large part to cut as it was not clear what was going to happen with the economy. as we played out the election to things. one, think of presidents camp and was more skill

dr. thomas sowell of the hoover institution at stanford university. dr.sold the most recent book "intellectuals and race", how do you define an intellectual? >> guest: someone who's and product his ideas and ideas whose validation is through peer consensus rather than by any particular established institution. in other words they chemists might be intellectual because their objective rules for which you can judge his work or a mathematician are an engineer but if you are a deconstruction is the only test is for the other deconstructionist to like what you are doing. >> host: doesn't matter what popular opinion says about your work? >> guest: no. >> host: why not? >> guest: their whole career and self-esteem and all that comes from their peers so it doesn't matter. some take great pride in being out of step. >> host: are you an intellectual? >> guest: i suppose you would have to say that. since my work and then ideas and people like them or don't like